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#1 Rogerdodger

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:35 AM

“We have a youth problem... but first and foremost we have a parent problem”

You have no doubt seen the news stories from around the country, large "flash-mobs," gatherings of unsupervised teenagers and preteens causing mayhem.
Horror at Wisconsin State Fair: Youth gangs
Milwaukee police said that around 11:10 p.m., squads were sent to the area for reports of battery, fighting and property damage being caused by an unruly crowd of "hundreds" of people. One officer described it as a "mob beating."
Police said that some victims were attacked while walking. They said others were pulled out of cars and off of motorcycles before being beaten.


In the good old days you would ask: "Where are their parents?"

Years ago the government program called the "Great Society" inadvertently took the responsibility for raising children away from the fathers, who became mere "babies' daddies."

Recently the Mayor of Philadelphia, Michael Nutter, all but begged these "Babies' Daddys" to take that responsibility back after flash-mobs began to reign down terror on that city.

In the latest event July 29, about 20 to 30 youths descended on Center City after dark, then punched, beat and robbed bystanders. One man was kicked so savagely that he was hospitalized with a fractured skull. Police arrested four people, including an 11-year-old.


But under the government plan, if fathers stay in the home, literally thousands of dollars of government money and benefits cease flowing to the mother.
So these baby daddies don't dare come home, and the mothers can't "afford" them.

So this morning I see where one of the most beautiful areas of Kansas City is also now being destroyed as the fruitage of the "Great Society" begins to ripen.

Plaza mayhem prompts call for change
The Kansas City Star

The first notable occurrence was on April 10, 2010, when as many as 900 youths, some as young as 11, converged on the shopping and entertainment district that Saturday night. Police responded to reports of vandalism and assaults. One group of teens robbed and beat a couple from Grandview. A girl in a prom dress was shoved into a fountain. Fights broke out.
Police used pepper spray to disperse groups who refused to move along when instructed to do so.
The Saturday night shooting that saw three youths wounded and the mayor forced to the ground by his security team.
Afterward, city officials and community leaders expressed their concern by staging a summit to look for ways to deal with the situation. The general agreement was that kids needed more activities, programs like Night Hoops basketball. :lol: :lol: :lol:
However, no plan was developed. Circo now says she is unconvinced that more city-sponsored activities are the solution.
“We can have organized programs, but the kids who need to be there, aren’t,” she said in an interview before Saturday’s incident.

“We have a youth problem on the Plaza, but first and foremost we have a parent problem,” he said.

It ain't the fat kids in Chicago that worry me.
It's the "Great Society's" destruction of the family unit, making a responsible father in the home unnecessary.

According to January – May 2011 Chicago Police Department crime statistics, 56.1% of Chicago murders were gang-related. In 29.6% of these murder cases, the offender was an acquaintance, intimate partner or relative of the victim, while in 38.6% the relationship was not established. In 81.8% of cases, the assailant had a prior CPD record. 65.9% of offenders were African American, 38.1% were Hispanic, and 2.3% were white. Finally, 75.5% of victims were African American, 19.4% were Hispanic, and 3.6% were white.

But they are going to focus on children's weight, since they have failed elsewhere.


Edited by Rogerdodger, 15 August 2011 - 09:40 AM.


#2 Rogerdodger

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 09:49 AM

Maybe if we spent more money on the schools in Kansas City?
:lol: Yeah Right!

Without parental involvement, these poor kids have little chance.
Get a load of this next government failure:


A federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it.

How did that work out?


Money And School Performance:
Lessons from the Kansas City Desegregation Experiment
by Paul Ciotti

(Excerpts:)
"For decades critics of the public schools have been saying, "You can't solve educational problems by throwing money at them." The education establishment and its supporters have replied, "No one's ever tried." In Kansas City they did try. To improve the education of black students and encourage desegregation, a federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it. Kansas City spent as much as $11,700 per pupil--more money per pupil, on a cost of living adjusted basis, than any other of the 280 largest districts in the country. The money bought higher teachers' salaries, 15 new schools, and such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, television and animation studios, a robotics lab, a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary, a zoo, a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. The student-teacher ratio was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.

The results were dismal. Test scores did not rise; the black-white gap did not diminish; and there was less, not greater, integration.

The Kansas City experiment suggests that, indeed, educational problems can't be solved by throwing money at them, that the structural problems of our current educational system are far more important than a lack of material resources, and that the focus on desegregation diverted attention from the real problem, low achievement.

...Once the magnet plan started, the district suddenly went from having 100 bus routes to having 850. At a given bus stop, it was not uncommon to find 10 kids going to 10 different schools.

"By the time he recused himself from the case in March 1997, Clark had approved dozens of increases, bringing the total cost of the plan to over $2 billion--$1.5 billion from the state and $600 million from the school district (largely from increased property taxes).

...With that money, the district built 15 new schools and renovated 54 others. Included were nearly five dozen magnet schools, which concentrated on such things as computer science, foreign languages, environmental science, and classical Greek athletics. Those schools featured such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room; a robotics lab; professional quality recording, television, and animation studios; theaters; a planetarium; an arboretum, a zoo, and a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary; a two-floor library, art gallery, and film studio; a mock court with a judge's chamber and jury deliberation room; and a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability.

...To entice white students to come to Kansas City, the district had set aside $900,000 for advertising, including TV ads, brochures, and videocassettes. If a suburban student needed a ride, Kansas City had a special $6.4 million transportation budget for busing. If the student didn't live on a bus route, the district would send a taxi. Once the students got to Kansas City, they could take courses in garment design, ceramics, and Suzuki violin. The computer magnet at Central High had 900 interconnected computers, one for every student in the school. In the performing arts school, students studied ballet, drama, and theater production. They absorbed their physics from Russian-born teachers, and elementary grade students learned French from native speakers recruited from Quebec, Belgium, and Cameroon.(17)

...For students in the classical Greek athletic program, there were weight rooms, racquetball courts, and a six-lane indoor running track better than those found in many colleges. The high school fencing team, coached by the former Soviet Olympic fencing coach, took field trips to Senegal and Mexico.(18)

...The ratio of students to instructional staff was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.(19) There was $25,000 worth of beads, blocks, cubes, weights, balls, flags, and other manipulatives in every Montessori-style elementary school classroom. Younger children took midday naps listening to everything from chamber music to "Songs of the Humpback Whale." For working parents the district provided all-day kindergarten for youngsters and before- and after-school programs for older students.

...In successful school districts, neighborhood schools are the hub of much community social activity. When students are bused clear across the district to a faraway magnet school, the fabric of the community is torn apart.

...Finally, the district had discovered that it was easier to meet the court's 60/40 integration ratio by letting black students drop out than by convincing white students to move in. As a result, nothing was done in the early days of the desegregation plan about the district's appalling high school dropout rate, which averaged about 56 percent in the early 1990s (when desegregation pressures were most intense) and went as high as 71 percent at some schools (for black males it was higher still).

...Many people have suggested ideas for improving the schools: replacing the school board; hiring a dean and a full-time counselor for troubled children; coming up with a new curriculum; encouraging parental involvement, now close to nonexistent; and improving communication. So far, however, no one has suggested solutions that might actually work. One reason is that school officials are so wedded to the notion that money is the solution to low achievement that, when they have money and it doesn't help, they don't know what to do.

...In the meantime, they ignore ideas that might work. They might fire poor teachers and reward good ones with merit pay, give parents vouchers so they could send their children to private schools, or stop trying to solve the problem of dysfunctional families after the fact and look upstream for a solution--the elimination of welfare to end the resulting social chaos."
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Edited by Rogerdodger, 15 August 2011 - 09:51 AM.


#3 Rogerdodger

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 01:05 PM

Kansas City mulls curfew after racial attacks...

Mayor gets shoved to ground when gunfire erupts...

VIDEO...

Flash mob robs DC-area 7-ELEVEN...

Boy Stabs Girl At Philly Mayor ANTI-VIOLENCE Event...

And it doesn't work in other countries any better:

UK gangs thrive in riots...

CUT OFF: Ministers plan removal of looters' benefits...

Cameron: We must reverse 'moral collapse'...

Britain must confront a culture of laziness, irresponsibility and selfishness that fueled four days of riots which left five people dead, thousands facing criminal charges and hundreds of millions in damages, Prime Minister David Cameron acknowledged Monday.


LOL! The government takes away responsibility, cultivates class warfare and then wonders why people act selfishly and without any responsibility. LOL!


Mother of 13-year-old rioter blames government...

She is on benefits, does not live with the boy's father and has 10 other children, the court heard.


Insanity: Doing the same exact thing over and over, but expecting different outcomes.
It IS insanity, isn't it?

Edited by Rogerdodger, 15 August 2011 - 01:20 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2011 - 07:55 PM

Gang of men beat food delivery man unconscious...

Roaming Pack of Thugs Attacks 64-Year-Old Man, Steals His Bible...
The victim, a 64-year-old man, is seen walking into the lobby of 2100 Creston Avenue. He seems to graciously hold open the lobby door for the suspect approaching him from behind.
Once inside the vestibule, though, the first thug pounces on the man, putting him into a chokehold and hurtling him to the ground. That’s when the other muggers come through the door, one stumbling in eagerness to participate in the attack.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 17 August 2011 - 07:57 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:34 PM

Speaking of the government destruction of the family, maybe this woman says it all:

"Polk County School Board Chair Kay Fields said,
"To me, diversity is just as important as family, in my opinion."

Siblings Sent to Separate Schools Over Race...

Edited by Rogerdodger, 17 August 2011 - 08:38 PM.


#6 Dex

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Posted 17 August 2011 - 08:38 PM

I carry pepper spray and a 380 auto. I used to live in that section on NYC/Bronx.

Edited by Dex, 17 August 2011 - 08:42 PM.

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Posted 18 August 2011 - 03:22 PM

It takes a village family, America's foundation for 200 years, but it has been damaged by those who say they want to "help" with collectivist solutions.
According to the way I define "help", it ain't working.

Child poverty rate in DC -- 29%...

Video Shows Unprovoked Attack by Philly Teen Girls...

The video, shot in May, shows a woman being attacked in broad daylight. The video shows the woman walking outside City Hall when a pack of teenage girls appears from behind her and slams her into the ground, hitting her repeatedly.

The woman said the attack was relentless.
"When I was in the air was when they got the first punch on my face that scared me I've never been punched like that," she told myfoxphilly.com.
In the video, the girls are seen laughing, screaming and even dancing.

The city of Philadelphia has been plagued by teen mob violence and recently instituted a curfew in an attempt to curb the attacks.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 18 August 2011 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 08:54 AM

VIDEO: Pack of girls rob DC store...
For the third time in the past couple of weeks, a flash mob robbed a convenience store in our area. Could it be a new trend in the Washington region?
In the latest incident, 10 women stormed the Shop Express convenience store along Benning Road in northeast Washington at about 3:15 a.m. Thursday.
Each of the women stole about $60 worth of merchandise.

This store is not alone in its flash mob troubles. Last Saturday, a flash mob took over a 7-Eleven in Germantown.
That video showed many of those involved laughing and smiling while stealing from the store.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 19 August 2011 - 09:00 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 09:24 AM

No doubt many of these unemployed feel justified in "taking a little" as the bailed out bankers get their bonuses and leave for holiday.

$20 million federal grant = 14 new jobs!
THOUSANDS LINE UP FOR JOBS
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Police scramble to fight flash-mob mayhem...

Kansas City sets youth curfew...

Attackers Target Luxury Cars in Germany

Edited by Rogerdodger, 19 August 2011 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 20 August 2011 - 06:29 AM

Maybe if we spent more money on the schools in Kansas City?
:lol: Yeah Right!

Without parental involvement, these poor kids have little chance.
Get a load of this next government failure:


A federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it.

How did that work out?


Money And School Performance:
Lessons from the Kansas City Desegregation Experiment
by Paul Ciotti

(Excerpts:)
"For decades critics of the public schools have been saying, "You can't solve educational problems by throwing money at them." The education establishment and its supporters have replied, "No one's ever tried." In Kansas City they did try. To improve the education of black students and encourage desegregation, a federal judge invited the Kansas City, Missouri, School District to come up with a cost-is-no-object educational plan and ordered local and state taxpayers to find the money to pay for it. Kansas City spent as much as $11,700 per pupil--more money per pupil, on a cost of living adjusted basis, than any other of the 280 largest districts in the country. The money bought higher teachers' salaries, 15 new schools, and such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room, television and animation studios, a robotics lab, a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary, a zoo, a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability, and field trips to Mexico and Senegal. The student-teacher ratio was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.

The results were dismal. Test scores did not rise; the black-white gap did not diminish; and there was less, not greater, integration.

The Kansas City experiment suggests that, indeed, educational problems can't be solved by throwing money at them, that the structural problems of our current educational system are far more important than a lack of material resources, and that the focus on desegregation diverted attention from the real problem, low achievement.

...Once the magnet plan started, the district suddenly went from having 100 bus routes to having 850. At a given bus stop, it was not uncommon to find 10 kids going to 10 different schools.

"By the time he recused himself from the case in March 1997, Clark had approved dozens of increases, bringing the total cost of the plan to over $2 billion--$1.5 billion from the state and $600 million from the school district (largely from increased property taxes).

...With that money, the district built 15 new schools and renovated 54 others. Included were nearly five dozen magnet schools, which concentrated on such things as computer science, foreign languages, environmental science, and classical Greek athletics. Those schools featured such amenities as an Olympic-sized swimming pool with an underwater viewing room; a robotics lab; professional quality recording, television, and animation studios; theaters; a planetarium; an arboretum, a zoo, and a 25-acre wildlife sanctuary; a two-floor library, art gallery, and film studio; a mock court with a judge's chamber and jury deliberation room; and a model United Nations with simultaneous translation capability.

...To entice white students to come to Kansas City, the district had set aside $900,000 for advertising, including TV ads, brochures, and videocassettes. If a suburban student needed a ride, Kansas City had a special $6.4 million transportation budget for busing. If the student didn't live on a bus route, the district would send a taxi. Once the students got to Kansas City, they could take courses in garment design, ceramics, and Suzuki violin. The computer magnet at Central High had 900 interconnected computers, one for every student in the school. In the performing arts school, students studied ballet, drama, and theater production. They absorbed their physics from Russian-born teachers, and elementary grade students learned French from native speakers recruited from Quebec, Belgium, and Cameroon.(17)

...For students in the classical Greek athletic program, there were weight rooms, racquetball courts, and a six-lane indoor running track better than those found in many colleges. The high school fencing team, coached by the former Soviet Olympic fencing coach, took field trips to Senegal and Mexico.(18)

...The ratio of students to instructional staff was 12 or 13 to 1, the lowest of any major school district in the country.(19) There was $25,000 worth of beads, blocks, cubes, weights, balls, flags, and other manipulatives in every Montessori-style elementary school classroom. Younger children took midday naps listening to everything from chamber music to "Songs of the Humpback Whale." For working parents the district provided all-day kindergarten for youngsters and before- and after-school programs for older students.

...In successful school districts, neighborhood schools are the hub of much community social activity. When students are bused clear across the district to a faraway magnet school, the fabric of the community is torn apart.

...Finally, the district had discovered that it was easier to meet the court's 60/40 integration ratio by letting black students drop out than by convincing white students to move in. As a result, nothing was done in the early days of the desegregation plan about the district's appalling high school dropout rate, which averaged about 56 percent in the early 1990s (when desegregation pressures were most intense) and went as high as 71 percent at some schools (for black males it was higher still).

...Many people have suggested ideas for improving the schools: replacing the school board; hiring a dean and a full-time counselor for troubled children; coming up with a new curriculum; encouraging parental involvement, now close to nonexistent; and improving communication. So far, however, no one has suggested solutions that might actually work. One reason is that school officials are so wedded to the notion that money is the solution to low achievement that, when they have money and it doesn't help, they don't know what to do.

...In the meantime, they ignore ideas that might work. They might fire poor teachers and reward good ones with merit pay, give parents vouchers so they could send their children to private schools, or stop trying to solve the problem of dysfunctional families after the fact and look upstream for a solution--the elimination of welfare to end the resulting social chaos."
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