unwarranted deaths
#1
Posted 20 November 2015 - 09:06 PM
klh
#2
Posted 21 November 2015 - 03:12 AM
#3
Posted 21 November 2015 - 08:01 AM
Yes, there have been many religious and political wars throughout human history...even in novels.I think it is good to take a look at history at times to put things in perspective
Fib
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#4
Posted 21 November 2015 - 11:54 AM
I think it is good to take a look at history at times to put things in perspective - ours is a glorious age of bounty for the ordinary person, one that required a different mindset of values to get it started.
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The age of bounty which you mention really is only since the industrial revolution -200 years- and that only for western Europe and the USA. The mass of the world 'age of bounty' began after WWII and even then not most of the world. China had 80% peasants in the the '80s
Hitler, Stalin, Mau, Pol Pot, Husain, ISIS all happened recently.
There has not been a mindset change of values.
Given the right circumstances what you described could happen again.
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#5
Posted 21 November 2015 - 12:22 PM
Edited by Rogerdodger, 21 November 2015 - 12:25 PM.
BIGGEST SCIENCE SCANDAL EVER...Official records systematically 'adjusted'.
#6
Posted 21 November 2015 - 04:27 PM
yes, esp historical novels:) but the horror was not just that it was WAR but that it was carelessness and disregard for science (and humanistic ideas) in favor of prejudice and superstition that did enormous harm.Yes, there have been many religious and political wars throughout human history...even in novels.I think it is good to take a look at history at times to put things in perspective
Fib
klh
#7
Posted 21 November 2015 - 05:02 PM
Yes...and this was not an unusual occurrence during this period of "Renaissance".yes, esp historical novels:) but the horror was not just that it was WAR but that it was carelessness and disregard for science (and humanistic ideas) in favor of prejudice and superstition that did enormous harm.Yes, there have been many religious and political wars throughout human history...even in novels.I think it is good to take a look at history at times to put things in perspective
Fib
But the main difference between now and then...the warriors wore uniforms, so you knew who your enemy was...they didn't hide in a crowd.
Not so today..though the idea of "prejudice and superstition that did enormous harm" does tend to rhyme with today's assassins.
As far as "historical" novels are concerned, I guess it all depends on which side your ancestors were on and their version of what happened...a hundred years can change perceptions.
Fib
Better to ignore me than abhor me.
“Wise men don't need advice. Fools won't take it” - Benjamin Franklin
"Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance" - George Bernard Shaw
Demagogue: A leader who makes use of popular prejudices, false claims and promises in order to gain power.
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#8
Posted 21 November 2015 - 07:38 PM
#9
Posted 21 November 2015 - 10:40 PM
https://en.wikipedia...d_Hotel_bombing
The current conflict in the Middle East is modeled on a past US operation.
https://en.wikipedia...eration_Cyclone
#10
Posted 22 November 2015 - 06:26 PM
As far as "historical" novels are concerned, I guess it all depends on which side your ancestors were on and their version of what happened...a hundred years can change perceptions.
Fib
huh? the 30 year war was one of the worst ever for most of europe - so many from every country in Europe died, it hardly matters who your ancestors are? there were really no winners - even if you are Asian or Eskimo - it still is a horrible loss to contemplate.
guerilla warfare is always called cowardly - in fact the old days when the infantry lined up and were destoyed by the new weapons - that was called cowardly too! I find it cowardly when fighters use civilians to be their human shields but cowardly and unfair are also at times perceptual.
klh