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#1 tria

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 09:21 PM

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 09:55 PM

Is Industrial Production that important a part of the US economy today vs 16 years ago or even 7 years ago?


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#3 colion

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 10:55 PM

Is Industrial Production that important a part of the US economy today vs 16 years ago or even 7 years ago?

 

It declined from about 17% in 1997-2000 to 14% in 2000-2005 to 13% in 2005-2015 (http://data.worldban.../NV.IND.MANF.ZS)



#4 tria

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 11:25 PM

Is Industrial Production that important a part of the US economy today vs 16 years ago or even 7 years ago?

 

Industrial Production is not what worries me, it is the MAs negative crossing in the Wilshire 5000 composite

that does actually. I am sure the USA can import everything that needs manufacturing from abroad one day

and the S&P making new highs with a 'forced feed to feel good' Fed.


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#5 dasein

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 07:08 AM

what is the important part of the US economy and does it have a competitive advantage?


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#6 gm_general

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 10:50 AM

If you take that long term P/E chart (is it CAPE?) and draw declining resistance lines on the periods of P/E bubble deflation, you will see they are all about the same slope down over time (so far), and all deflations (so far) have terminated with P/E in the range of 5-7. So if you apply a similar slope to the current deflation that began in 2000, the recent P/E peak would be around that resistance line. You can deduce where that would leave the market if P/Es were to drop to 5-7 range.



#7 tria

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 03:47 PM

If you take that long term P/E chart (is it CAPE?) and draw declining resistance lines on the periods of P/E bubble deflation, you will see they are all about the same slope down over time (so far), and all deflations (so far) have terminated with P/E in the range of 5-7. So if you apply a similar slope to the current deflation that began in 2000, the recent P/E peak would be around that resistance line. You can deduce where that would leave the market if P/Es were to drop to 5-7 range.

 

Interesting observation GM that the declining resistance lines are parallel to each other !


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