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#1 thoughtpwr

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Posted 03 December 2016 - 01:58 PM

After writing this, it was apparent I was talking through my thought process in writing what amounts to stream of consciousness:  

 

The market has gone down to second support at SPY 219 this week. I am now trying to determine if we can bottom in here and make a second run at 222 over the next week as things can get confusing due to the coincidence of options expiration and the Fed meeting with its likely rate increase, which occurs on 12/13-12/14. The Fed could wreak the normal positive options expiration week this month. I am interested in hearing others takes on what will happen, but I am looking at one election history chart that appears to be down into expiration during election years and proceeding down into the end of the month.  A second chart of the same ilk which shows a new high rally that goes down into expiration and rebounds to new highs into the end of the month. Schaeffer's recent case study on 15 days of IWM upside says we are down into this last week and next and positive after that. 

 

From candle sticks, one has on SPX an inverted cross with inside day up after a solid two down days. That could indicate a potential turn as a harami cross or a concealing baby swallow in process (without gap down). It is normally more positive if the day following the inside day opens negatively. The harami pattern could gap and take off to the upside. The second potential pattern would imply a gap opening higher on Monday that opens above Friday's high and sells off all day to engulf Friday's result. If we bottomed in gold, are we likely to see a move further down in SPX, if GLD rallies Monday, which some predictive software says is a strong day in GLD. Or is GLD going to start to rally with the SPX?  Also Monday is the first Monday of the month, which is normally very positive for SPX. $NYMO is pausing at the zero line, in keeping with a potential retrace of the move down. So there are numerous potentials in place going in both directions. I only see slight divergences in SPX on the 1 min and 5 min charts with the market still above Mr. Dev's magical moving average (positive for rally).

 

So with all those possibilities in place, I see a potential rally on Monday more likely if we open lower to result in a high this week that sells off into the Fed meeting. I am hopeful that the market can rally after the Fed meeting into the end of the month. If we do bottom on Monday, history implies we don't get lower than Monday's low on Fed Tues.

 

If we gap open above Friday's high on Monday, I will be on the lookout for an all day sell off into a new low that takes place on turn around Tuesday and is, then, the low moving forward into making a new high this week.

 

If Thurs was the low, a small gap open that retraces on Monday and stays above Friday's low or goes lower, but puts in a longer time frame 15 min divergence on Monday AM could be the low that forms and turns around on Tues. 

 

If we trade below 219 for more than 2 hours on Monday, I would take we are headed lower to 218 for more serious problems. Ideally, I can conceive of an OOPS open with a gap lower that comes up and crosses the Thurs & Fri lows and basically rallies all day Monday to mark the bottom. I was expecting VIX = 16 on this move down, which would fit with a lower open on Monday.

 

We will likely see the Italy result dominate which way we open on Monday and take it from there. From my perspective, if Monday is the bottom then put spreads should be opened early for the options expiration or the remainder of the month. Otherwise they will be lower on Thurs or even a week from Tues, and should not be opened until then. I thought I spotted a bottom in PYPL on Friday and opened a spread at 38/37, so I am leaning bottom based upon that action and PYPL's relative strength throughout the day. I also have several open put spread orders in JWN, CVX, MSFT, & NVDA at lower levels that I have in place to trigger, if they reach support on Monday or later.  Interesting two weeks coming.



#2 slupert

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 08:30 AM

Dollar weakens, they sell banks and buy tech. (JMHO)



#3 lawdog

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Posted 04 December 2016 - 10:49 AM

Excellent analysis, thoughtpower. for my part, the consolidation/correction this past week or so appears sufficient to send the market up on continuation of the rally that began 4 weeks ago. I initially believed we were seeing "the" top for a while and might be needing a full correction, taking sentiment and momentum measures to full swing trade lows; now i believe all we needed was the working off of the extreme levels, which has been accomplished; the rally has weeks, if not months, left in it. now need to figure out the best way to go from 15% long to 85% long (being 225% with leverage). I intend to take positions for a sustained swing trade. would love a news-related lower opening monday. i won't quibble too much on my entry point for at least a portion of my long positions i intend to take tomorrow. if i need to pay up tomorrow due to a gap higher, i will do so in order to have a 50% position early in the day, after which i will evaluate the timing of the rest. 



#4 lawdog

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 08:28 AM

go to bed licking my chops with prospect of buying on an opening gap down and wake up to a gap up; kind of disappointing; either way, will add at least 20% of full position on the open to get to 35% long. hate chasing gaps, will be hoping i lose money in the first 30 minutes to facilitate getting at least to 50% of a full leveraged position today. the gap 4 weeks ago didn't give you a chance other than to pay up so i doubt this one will give much either. the goal is to get to 85% long between today and tomorrow if the action continues to support a bullish outlook.



#5 lawdog

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 01:50 PM

Was able to increase position to 50% of fully leveraged at reasonable prices near the open, especially QLD which had a nice drop from the opening, then a 2% recovery; will hold there for now. Traded out of some Q's on the pop higher but took back the position on this pullback from the highs. I like the way SPX is hanging in there, but I am by no means comfortable. Maybe that's good.



#6 thoughtpwr

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 02:29 PM

Certainly didn't give anything back until it got to resistance. GLD 7 AG recovered there early morning losses. I have to wonder if we don't make a new high over the next couple of days  in IWM and SPX and then sell off into Fed mtg. Some stocks are locked under overhead resistance and I am ready to short them after tomorrows open, which I presume will be higher as that is the normal exit for the long first Monday trade. If we don't make a new high tomorrow or early Wed, then we likely go lower than Thurs/Fri lows by Fed Mtg.



#7 lawdog

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Posted 05 December 2016 - 02:35 PM

I think your trading thoughts immediately above make sense; however, I am generally in buy and hold mode until we get to what I would interpret as overbought, which should take several weeks to accomplish. Added 10% more to my position on this pullback to 2201 on SPX. My view of riisk of being long here seems pretty low. I don't trade gold much so have no opinion there, other than it seems a bit oversold.



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Posted 05 December 2016 - 03:44 PM

75% long now, 180% with leverage