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#11 da_cheif

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 03:49 PM

 

trump bull ,mkt?    what was that what started in 09?  chopped liver?

Yes absolutely chopped liver also known as ZIRP. No place to get yield for 8 long years.

Seniors and savers are getting hammered. Forced to spend principle to survive.

Now the Trump bull will stampede IN SPITE of rising rates.

 

what....zirp?   did i know about zirp?    ur hindsite is perfect...im a senior surrounded by seniors ....just smart ones or dead ones     ...and wats this forced to spend principle to survive stuph.     old people either keep workin or... retire...catch a big fish....and die of a heart attack with a smile on their face



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Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:00 PM

The odds for rates above 50-75 basis points don't cross 50 percent till June 2017.



#13 gm_general

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 05:36 PM

It's a different situation from last year.  The US dollar was rising and crude oil was in a sharp decline, which necessitated the selling of US assets by some foreign governments to offset the revenue decline.  Together with the US government returning to the debt market  upon the lifting of the debt ceiling, there was much more supply than the $160B/mo run rate of QE for about three months.  The next debt ceiling is in March 17, 2017.  The government has unlimited borrowing authority until that date so the heavy issurance may precede that date as well as after.

 

In late 2015 SP500 MACD (and others obviously) had topped out on the primary trend and was headed down - MACD trend was imitating almost exactly what it did earlier in 2015 as you can see in the below chart. It bottomed in January 2016. Since then it was capped by the two parallel lines within the primary trend - in the past few days it cracked above that minor trend resistance on the second try - hypothetically MACD could continue up until it reaches the primary trend resistance (see red arrow).



#14 tsharp

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Posted 09 December 2016 - 07:52 PM

The fast momentum indicator on the daily SPX just broke through the LT DTL that dates back to the momentum peak in 2000... IMHO, we're not near an IT top, as momentum has not even shown divergence yet...

 

Link to SPX daily fast momentum chart:  http://postimg.org/image/yhslpjr2x/

 

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#15 NAV

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Posted 10 December 2016 - 01:22 AM

 

europe is going up vertically and that is not good for the longer term because this behaviour is the prelude to topping.......let's see when, but it might be soon 

Trump bull market should go on for quite long time. Might have a speed bump in January then on to higher highs....

You people in Europe, do not misunderestimate the Trump effect on attitudes here in US. Consumer confidence is going up.

 

 

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#16 da_cheif

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Posted 10 December 2016 - 05:25 AM

who needed trump    6  years ago...   http://www.siliconin...chtxt=headlines