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Posted 25 May 2017 - 03:19 PM

Sentiment Speaks: How Did I Know We Would See A 2% Down Day In A BullMarket?
By Avi Gilburt, ElliottWaveTrader.net

Price action over the prior week

With the market remaining below our resistance of 2410SPX, we expected a
drop towards 2330SPX.  This past week saw a drop which bottomed within 20
points of our target region.

Anecdotal and other sentiment indications

In my never-ending quest for outperformance in the stock market, I am still
bewildered by those who follow news as their triggers to buy or sell.  

Now, while I can point to specific events which have confounded those
looking for a market "crash," such as the French terrorist attacks, or
Brexit, or the Trump election, it seems people simply do not learn their
lessons that you cannot glean market direction from news.   While it may act
as a catalyst for a market move, the substance of the news will not provide
you a directional bias, and, many times, will even have you looking the
wrong way.

Again, each of the examples I have presented above caused most market
participants to be looking the wrong way, as the market continued its march
higher towards our long-term bull market targets.   You see, the market
really does not care about the news.  Only people who need a "reason" for
what they want to do care about the news.  But, markets are not reasonable.
Markets are emotional.

Consider what Ben Franklin said hundreds of years ago:

"So convenient a thing is it is to be a reasonable creature, since it
enables one to find or to make a reason for everything one has a mind to

So, when the market sees a sizeable move, people start searching the news
events to "explain" why the market moved in such a way.   Come on, admit it.
We all do it.  When you see a spike, you always ask yourself "what just
happened?" Then you look to the news to see if something "caused" this
spike.  Yet, we are all too often fooled into believing that correlation is
akin to causation.

But, before I go into how ridiculous this exercise really is, I want you to
consider several other quotes:

"The causes of these cyclical changes seem clearly to have their origin in
the immutable natural law that governs all things, including the various
moods of human behavior. Causes, therefore, tend to become relatively
unimportant in the long term progress of the cycle.  This fundamental law
cannot be subverted or set aside by statutes or restrictions.  Current news
and political developments are of only incidental important, soon forgotten;
their presumed influence on market trends is not as weighty as is commonly

Ralph Nelson Elliott

"At best, the news is the tardy recognition of forces that have already been
at work for some time and is startling only to those unaware of the
trend....kings have been assassinated, there have been wars, rumors of wars,
booms, panics, bankruptcies, New Era, New Deal, "trust busting", and all
sorts of historic and emotional developments. Yet all bull markets acted in
the same way, and likewise all bear markets evinced similar characteristics
that controlled and measured the response of the market to any type of news
as well as the extent and proportions of the component segments of the trend
as a whole. These characteristics can be appraised and used to forecast
future action of the market, regardless of the news....Those who regard news
as the cause of market trends would probably have better luck gambling at
race tracks than in relying on their ability to guess correctly the
significance of outstanding news items....To sum up our view, then, the
market essentially *is* the news."

Ralph Nelson Elliott

Now, after you contemplate what Elliott said over 80 years ago, I want you
to consider some of the studies done about how news events effect the stock
market, and their conclusions will likely shock you.

In a 1988 study conducted by Cutler, Poterba, and Summers entitled "What
Moves Stock Prices," they reviewed stock market price action after major
economic or other type of news (including major political events) in order
to develop a model through which one would be able to predict market moves
RETROSPECTIVELY.  Yes, you heard me right.  They were not even at the stage
yet of developing a prospective prediction model.
However, the study concluded that "[m]acroeconomic news bearing on
fundamental values explains only about one fifth of the movement in stock
market prices."  In fact, they even noted that "many of the largest market
movements in recent years have occurred on days when there were no major
news events." They also concluded that "[t]here is surprisingly small effect
[from] big news [of] political developments . . . and international events."

In August 1998, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution published an article by Tom
Walker, who conducted his own study of 42 years' worth of "surprise" news
events and the stock market's corresponding reactions. His conclusion, which
will be surprising to most, was that it was exceptionally difficult to
identify a connection between market trading and dramatic surprise news.
Based upon Walker's study and conclusions, even if you had the news
beforehand, you would still not be able to determine the direction of the
market only based upon such news.

In 2008, another study was conducted, in which they reviewed more than
90,000 news items relevant to hundreds of stocks over a two-year period.
They concluded that large movements in the stocks were NOT linked to any
news items:

"Most such jumps weren't directly associated with any news at all, and most
news items didn't cause any jumps."  

What happened this past week to make me think about all of this again?
Well, back on May 8th, as we were striking our recent highs, I was warning
those in my Trading Room at Elliottwavetrader.net:

So, I want to prepare you emotionally for what may happen.   You see, if our
primary count continues to play out, the c-wave down we are expecting will
likely be quite scary.  

We have now seen the VIX strike levels it has not seen in over a decade,
which means complacency is now at an extreme.  While the market got the
"good news" it wanted to hear about the French elections, we are still
relatively flat.  In other words, it does not look like there is much juice
left in the market to the upside, just as we are approaching our targets for
this b-wave.

And, when the market is unable to go up, well . . . it usually then goes in
the opposite direction, especially as we are completing 5 waves up.
Moreover, in order to "re-set" the VIX to levels which can support a rally
to 2500+ in the SPX, I think something can hit the market which can truly
scare the market.  In fact, I would not be shocked to see a 2% down day in
the c-wave to the downside that I am expecting.   Remember, c-waves often
feel like "crashes," as they set up the market for its next rally.   So, for
this reason, I want you to at least prepare "emotionally" for a potentially
strong move down.  The reason you need to prepare is because it will be a
buying opportunity for the run to 2500SPX, but the manner in which I would
want to see the c-wave down may scare you from being able to pull the

And, this past week, we saw a day where we almost hit 2% to the downside in
the SPX.  Yet, people say that such days are not foreseeable.   Well, I will
tell you that I was short coming into the day of the Flash Crash years ago.
And, there was no news accompanying that event.

But, what truly astounded me about this almost 2% down day was the
ridiculous reasons that people ascribed to the market drop.  Personally, I
was expecting something bad centered around North Korea, or maybe in the
Middle East, as I had mentioned in my Trading Room the prior week.  But, no.
The market blamed it on the issues surrounding Trumps conversation with the
FBI director.  I mean, REALLY?  This was the largest single day point drop
we have seen in almost a year, and, I can certainly point to much worse news
that has occurred during the year.  Yet, the pundits and talking heads have
convinced the masses that this ridiculous piece of news was the "cause" of
the largest daily drop we experienced in almost a year.  To me, this was

But we have been so well trained to believe that exogenous causation is what
moves our market that when the market sees a sizeable "unexpected" move, we
run to the news events of the day and attempt to find a reason, no matter
how ridiculous.  Do you not see the futility in such an exercise performed
after the fact? Will this ever drive you to outperform the market?   I think
not.  Well, all I can say is that there was something that did give us
advance warning of a potential 2% down day in the market, and it ain't the

Price pattern sentiment indications and upcoming expectations
For my analysis, I am going to include what I wrote the evening of May 23rd to my
members at Elliottwavetrader.net:

One of the benefits of being a part of a trading room with over 3000
members, over 400 professionals, and 15 analysts is that we all are able to
take advantage of the combined wisdom of all the members and analysts in the
room.  Since I am but one person within this room, I am clearly unable to
see all potentials the market may be throwing at us.  And, thanks to the
collective wisdom of the room, several people have provided me with insights
today which I did not have on my own.   So, there is no question that we all
can benefit from the collective wisdom of the room, and for that I am
grateful to you all.

First, Garrett private messaged me today to tell me that he is having a hard
time seeing enough stocks setting up to support a rally to 2500SPX at this
time.  Rather, many of them still need more pullback before they can
substantiate such a run.  And, since this is a market of stocks, I clearly
need to take that into account in my own analysis.

Second, I have noted several times that I really do not like the high that I
considered the top to the (B) wave before, because the rally into that high
really counted best as a 3 wave move.  Since that time, I have been
struggling to understand how I can reconcile that issue with the overall
market action.  Well, today, Bill Adlard, one of our members and a highly
acclaimed analyst in his own right, presented a count on the board which
gave me insight into a truly elegant solution to the issues I was having,
and I have modified the count on my chart to take advantage of his insight.
If you look at my 60 minute chart, you will see that we can actually count
this seemingly 5 wave rally as a © wave within the b-wave still.  In fact,
whereas the larger (B) wave of the b-wave would have taken the great
majority of the time during this corrective move, the (a) wave and © would
now be almost equal in time, as well as in size.
Based upon this modified count, I am still in the camp of seeing much
further downside in the coming weeks, and this count can still support a
strong c-wave down to the 2285-2330SPX region.  Moreover, as I have noted
before, the IWM provides more evidence that the downside has potentially not
yet completed.  

However, I will note that should the next drop below 2385SPX be corrective
in nature, and then we rally through the high we make in this rally, I will
likely move into the alternative count in yellow, which points us to the
2500SPX region sooner than I had preferred.  The reason I say we have to
break 2385SPX is because that is the .382 retracement of what can be a 3rd
wave top at today's highs, so I would first want to see the market break
below that region to suggest we still do not see a 4-5 to complete a bigger
© wave up here, which can then take us until the end of this week.

So, for now, I am still looking for a bigger downside reaction in this
larger 4th wave.   However, as I have stated many times before, you MUST
respect the fact that this is a bull market.  Therefore, downside set ups
are not for aggressively shorting for most people - at least in my humble
opinion - but, rather, are times to consider where and what you want to be
buying on the dip.  

Remember, the strongest likelihood and highest probability perspective we
see on these charts right now is the rally to the 2500SPX region.  But, what
we still struggle with is from where we begin that rally.  And, as I have
noted many times before, knowing where a 4th wave has completed when it is
not a textbook 4th wave is often one of the hardest things we do when it
comes to Elliott Wave analysis.

At the end of the day, we came within 20 points of our downside target
region.  While I certainly would like to see our downside target struck, I
don't believe one should be aggressively shorting a bull market for that
ideal downside target because in bull markets we often come up a bit short.
See charts illustrating the wave counts on the S&P 500 at https://www.elliottw...1705251588.html
Avi Gilburt is a widely followed Elliott Wave technical analyst and author of ElliottWaveTrader.net (www.elliottwavetrader.net), a live Trading Room featuring his intraday market analysis (including emini S&P 500, metals, oil, USD & VXX), interactive member-analyst forum, and detailed library of Elliott Wave education.


Mark S Young
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