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Posted 21 July 2017 - 08:44 AM

The United States has always held onto the narrative of the redeemer nation; the story Americans tell themselves about the purpose of their nation.

 

The narrative has existed from the beginning; it has only evolved and increased, but it has never changed.  America is God’s hand in world affairs. 

 

Since the fall of the Soviet Union, the United States has gradually been losing this narrative.  America’s narrative of completing God’s mission was achieved.  George H.W. Bush offered a coda, a ceremonial war against Iraq, as demonstrating America’s achievement.

 

There are now competing narratives – both within and outside of the United States.  Actual people in actual places have become restless.

 

The narrative power has been lost; the narrative is being pushed by others: China, Russia, Muslims, even Europeans…but not Americans.

 

Does America drift for a while, or do we accept that we are no longer exceptional?  For the US to cease to see itself as something exceptional will take something like what Japan and Germany realized in World War Two. 

 

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#2 diogenes227

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Posted 21 July 2017 - 10:24 AM

 


Does America drift for a while, or do we accept that we are no longer exceptional?  For the US to cease to see itself as something exceptional will take something like what Japan and Germany realized in World War Two. 

 

 https://www.lewrockw...eemer-nation-2/

 

 

 

Down without a fight?  Now, in the annals of history, that would be exceptional.


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Posted 03 August 2017 - 09:50 AM

Director/Producer Rory Kennedy’s “Last Days in Vietnam” [Netflix] Requires Mandatory Viewing! 

 

No one can really glorify a war that should not be fought in the first place. Such a war was invariably lost because of a major dereliction of duty by our JFK [Rory’s uncle], LBJ, Nixon, Kissinger, generals, et. al.  I recommend that our military and civilian representatives watch this film to understand one simple point. It’s easy to start a war but it is major b*tch to finish it, or even to win.

 

In any war zone, hundreds of thousands of civilians will be killed for nothing. We call that ‘collateral damage’. The real damage from the Vietnam War was created by our political and military leaders who had no idea of how to win or even lose a war sixteen thousand miles away.

 

I fear that we have repeated Vietnam over and over again in: 

  • Iraq
  • Afghanistan
  • Syria
  • Africa
  • Yemen
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  •  
  • Now American citizenry must defy any new attempts at creating unnecessary wars.  “The Last Days of Vietnam” illustrates a metaphor that has lasted for over the past fifty years. We have won no wars and never will as long as we act in a self-delusional manner, invading foreign countries for nonsensical ethereal concepts, like the “War on Terror”!  A complete oxymoron!

     

  • Ho Chi Minh warned us :

    “You will kill ten of us, but we will kill one of you; in the end, you will tire of us first, and then leave defeated.”

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  • Years later when I negotiated the Cambodian Peace Treaty with the famous Vietnamese Foreign Minister Lee Duc Tho, he said to me:

    “You Americans can win any war. But, you are lazy and undisciplined in your thinking; you will never really finish to the end.”

    Nothing has changed in fifty years!! 

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  •  http://stevepieczeni...nam-a-must-see/

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#4 diogenes227

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Posted 03 August 2017 - 02:09 PM

 

Director/Producer Rory Kennedy’s “Last Days in Vietnam” [Netflix] Requires Mandatory Viewing! 

 

No one can really glorify a war that should not be fought in the first place. Such a war was invariably lost because of a major dereliction of duty by our JFK [Rory’s uncle], LBJ, Nixon, Kissinger, generals, et. al.  I recommend that our military and civilian representatives watch this film to understand one simple point. It’s easy to start a war but it is major b*tch to finish it, or even to win.

 

In any war zone, hundreds of thousands of civilians will be killed for nothing. We call that ‘collateral damage’. The real damage from the Vietnam War was created by our political and military leaders who had no idea of how to win or even lose a war sixteen thousand miles away.

 

I fear that we have repeated Vietnam over and over again in: 

  • Iraq
  • Afghanistan
  • Syria
  • Africa
  • Yemen
  •  
  •  
  •  
  • Now American citizenry must defy any new attempts at creating unnecessary wars.  “The Last Days of Vietnam” illustrates a metaphor that has lasted for over the past fifty years. We have won no wars and never will as long as we act in a self-delusional manner, invading foreign countries for nonsensical ethereal concepts, like the “War on Terror”!  A complete oxymoron!

     

  • Ho Chi Minh warned us :

    “You will kill ten of us, but we will kill one of you; in the end, you will tire of us first, and then leave defeated.”

  •  

  • Years later when I negotiated the Cambodian Peace Treaty with the famous Vietnamese Foreign Minister Lee Duc Tho, he said to me:

    “You Americans can win any war. But, you are lazy and undisciplined in your thinking; you will never really finish to the end.”

    Nothing has changed in fifty years!! 

  •  

  •  http://stevepieczeni...nam-a-must-see/

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Made by Robert F. Kennedy's daughter.

 

Interesting.  Thanks for the heads-up, super bot.

 

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Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:34 AM

U.S. Dropped 26,171 Bombs on 7 Muslim-Majority Countries in 2016
 
President Obama's last year in office was marked by heavy bombing in the Middle East and South Asia. 
 
President Obama was the Nobel Peace Prize winner in 2009.
 
 
 

http://www.alternet....-countries-2016


Edited by stocks, 08 August 2017 - 10:37 AM.

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Posted 16 August 2017 - 08:15 AM

Why did Obama & McCain destroy Syria? 

 

Syria’s great historic cities of Aleppo and Damascus have been virtually destroyed—along with its lesser towns and villages and nearly the entirety of its economy. There are 400,000 dead and 11 million internal and external refugees from an original population of hardly 18 million. The human toll of death, displacement, disease and disorder which has been inflicted on this hapless land staggers the imagination. 

 

So why? The answer is straight forward. Washington has become an Imperial City populated by a permanent class of sunshine patriots and self-appointed global field marshals like Senator McCain, who do the bidding of the military/industrial complex and its far-flung Warfare State apparatus.

 

That is, they identify and demonize the enemies and villains that are needed to keep the money flowing into the Empire’s $700 billion budget. In this case, Assad drew the short straw because as a member of the greater Shiite confession in the Islamic world he was naturally allied with the Shiite regime of Iran.

 

It was a proxy war and a provocation designed to prosecute the real neocon target——the endlessly vilified Shiite regime in Tehran. 

 

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