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#11 fib_1618

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 05:45 AM

You all may want to look into the U.N.s (NWO) agenda 21 and for their plans for California and the rest of the US.   Look up fires of California and agenda 21.  Just about every country signed it (including US) back in early 90's. You may not like what you find down that rabbit hole.

 
Like the Climate Paris Accord, Agenda 21 is a legally non-binding statement of intent and not a treaty,

 

There is, therefore, no power here...it's just another "feel good" environmental scheme to take money away from those who are taught to feel guilty about something they have no control over.

 

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#12 zoropb

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 07:35 AM

I agree with all that you said but just depends who is in the whitehouse for continued implimintation.  Agenda 2030 also. 


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#13 fib_1618

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 07:52 AM

I agree with all that you said but just depends who is in the whitehouse for continued implimintation.  Agenda 2030 also. 

 

Well, for now, we're safe...

 

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#14 ryanoo

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 01:30 PM

Well, now this is Trump's job.  He can't just blame others.  Forest fire is more urgent,  a far bigger issue than building border wall. Stop blaming.  He should put emphasis on managing forest.  Stop blaming problems on others.  You were responsible for at least 50% of the problem.  

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Fires in the United States are getting larger, and the country is rapidly losing the ability to deal with them. During President Ronald Reagan’s first term, the federal government spent a couple hundred thousand dollars a year fighting fires, according to Williams. This year, it plans to spend $2.25 billion just battling fires; its full budget for managing them can exceed $5 billion. Yet forest-fire damage has ballooned nonetheless. Since the early 1980s, the land area burned by wildfires every year has increased by 1,000 percent.

“Fires are outrunning us. We’re trying harder than ever to put them out, and they’re continuing to win, more and more, every year,” Williams said. “And it really isn’t for lack of effort. Even when we know it’s been stupid policy to fight every single fire, we’re still trying as hard as we can to do that.”

It’s a message he wishes he could drill into the head of every American. As the California fires have dominated the news, Williams has been asked by friends and journalists why we can’t just fix wildfires, why we can’t just put them out. We have solved all sorts of complex environmental-engineering problems. Why not wildfire?

 

The question illustrates “the root problem that got us into this mess,” Williams told me. “We think that we as humans should be able to dominate this phenomenon of wildfire. And in reality, we can’t. Even though we can put a person on the moon, and even though we can create this global computer network, we can’t. This is a natural phenomenon that is similar to the ocean in that it is really big, that it is much larger than us when it really gets going.”

In some ways, he said, a wildfire is similar to a combustion-powered hurricane. Fires put out tons of hot air at their center, which tries violently to rise. This rising air creates a vacuum at the core of fires, creating a fast-moving conveyor belt of cooler air flowing into the fire from all directions. A large fire can pull in so much air at such high speeds that its ability to do so is hindered by Earth’s rotation. In the Northern Hemisphere, a large wildfire’s smoke column will begin to spin counterclockwise, just as happens to hurricanes.

 

Sometimes, that channel of upward-flowing air can collapse in one small spot. Then the hot air in the atmosphere plummets through the weak point. “You get a very fast wind moving down toward the ground, and when it hits the ground, it spreads like jelly slopping across the floor,” Williams said. “It can also send white-hot air out in front of the flame, incinerating the landscape before the actual flame has arrived. It can cause forests to spontaneously combust without coming into contact with a flame.”

When this upward-moving air pattern stays strong, it creates other kinds of problems. It can loft burning wood high into the atmosphere, carrying it many miles away from the center of the fire. When this debris finally lands, it can start new fires. In 2011, Williams lived dozens of miles from the edge of the blaze, yet he remembers semi-burned sticks falling like drizzle in his backyard. “These were twigs that you hold in your hand and say, ‘Wow, this actually weighs something. This made it 35 miles in the air,’” he said.

“When the fires are really moving like that, it’s because the meteorological conditions are allowing that to happen,” he said. He estimated that the California fires would not be fully contained until the winter rains arrive.

So how should Americans react to the power of forest fires? By respecting them, Williams said—and by understanding that we are in a new era of great fires. “The continuing increase in fire is an inevitability in the western United States. It is an inevitability that this trend is going to continue,” he told me. “If the public understood that, then they would become more tolerant of managerial tactics that are currently seen as too risky or heartless.”

Many forest managers know that a certain tract of woodland is due for a catastrophic wildfire in the next decade, but feel they have no political ability to do a controlled burn there—lest it get out of control. If the public understood that huge swaths of western forest will soon burn, they may be more willing to allow controlled burns when the meteorological conditions are right.

“Today it’s completely impossible to say that we need to have a 100,000-acre fire in that forest. Any politician or fire manager who brought that up? It would be a death wish for their career,” Williams said.


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#15 zoropb

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Posted 16 November 2018 - 02:04 PM

Most people won't bother reading agenda 21 and 30.

 

They may help to shed light on this topic and the rest of what is waiting for all, once one of thier President (left or right) employee's take power again.

 

or don't read it folks...their is always the blue pill.


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Posted 27 November 2018 - 10:57 AM

Video - Paradise lost, the CAMP FIRE, worst in California history:

 

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