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#1 calmcookie

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 10:28 AM

Have you ever had a good look at your physician? If he or she does not look healthy, why on earth would you want to take their advice? I suppose you could make the argument that they are just too dedicated and hard working and therefore stressed out of their minds and unable to appear healthy. Or, maybe they are just genetically unlucky and that’s why they weight 300 pounds, or on the other end of the spectrum, are pale and skinny as a rake. Okay, that could be true.

However, just as I would never listen to trading advice from someone who is obviously in the poor house … neither will I pay any attention to a physician who is unable to look after him or herself.

By the way, a recent, large scale population study found that the more access people have to modern medical "care" the worse off they are. Sorry, don't have exact reference, but heard on NPR radio yesterday.

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#2 Echo

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 12:42 PM

Have you ever had a good look at your physician? If he or she does not look healthy, why on earth would you want to take their advice?  I suppose you could make the argument that they are just too dedicated and hard working and therefore stressed out of their minds and unable to appear healthy.  Or, maybe they are just genetically unlucky and that’s why they weight 300 pounds, or on the other end of the spectrum, are pale and skinny as a rake. Okay, that could be true. 

However, just as I would never listen to trading advice from someone who is obviously in the poor house … neither will I pay any attention to a physician who is unable to look after him or herself.

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An old gold miner walked out of the wilderness after months of panning and strolled into town. His hair had grown long and he was in need of a haircut in a major way. He asked the townspeople where he could get a haircut and was told there were only two barbers in town.

He decided to go to the first one who was nearby. When he walked in, the place was a mess. Magazines thrown all over the place, ugly torn up furniture, and hair all over the floors. The barber was poorly dressed and sported an uneven haircut that looked terrible. He thought to himself for a moment and figured he should probably go to check out the other barber in town.

So he walked off to the other barber who was way over on the other side of town. When he walked in, the place was immaculate. Magazines nicely stacked on the table, great furniture, no hair on the floor, etc. The barber was neatly dressed with a fantastic haircut, groomed to perfection. The miner thought to himself for a moment and decided to go back across town to the first barber.

Why? :blink: :unsure: :o :huh: :wacko:

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#3 Chilidawgz

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 01:18 PM

cuz he got his hair cut at the first barber ;)
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Posted 07 January 2006 - 01:48 PM

By the way, a recent, large scale population study found that the more access people have to modern medical "care" the worse off they are.  Sorry, don't have exact reference, but heard on NPR radio yesterday.

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While I absolutely believe that each individual has the highest of all responsibilities to take great care of their bodies with proper diet, exercise, weight control, prevention, and treatment of any risk factors, the above statement heard on radio is the silliest, most ludicrous, insane statement you could ever hear, and flys in the face of common sense.

If you have an infectious disease or sepsis, where would you be without appropriate medical care and antibiotics? In most cases, very ill, permanently crippled or dead. This could easy be an infant or child.

If you have cancer, where would you be without appropriate medical care? In most cases, very ill, permanently crippled or dead. This could easy be an infant or child.

If you have major trauma, broken bones, internal bleeding, burns, drowning, freezing, or shock, where would you be without appropriate medical care? In most cases, very ill, permanently crippled or dead. This could easy be an infant or child.

If you have kidney failure, where would you be without appropriate medical care and dialysis? Dead. This could sometimes even be an infant or child.

If you have liver or intractable heart/lung failure, where would you be without a transplant? Dead. This could sometimes even be an infant or child.

If you had a heart attack, where would you be without medication or balloon angioplasty to open up the clogged artery quicker? With much worsened heart function, morbidity and mortality.

If you have anything more than mild high blood pressure or diabetes where would you be without medication to properly control it? In most cases, very ill, permanently crippled or dead much sooner than with medication.

Just some obvious examples.

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 02:12 PM

because the first one cut the hair of the second, and did such a good job.
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Posted 07 January 2006 - 02:17 PM

because the first one cut the hair of the second, and did such a good job.

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Yep, you got it. Only two barbers in town, so the great looking haircut was done by the slouchy barber.

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Posted 07 January 2006 - 03:27 PM

Dear Dr. Echo, I understand your viewpoint, but vehemently disagree. If I sustain traumatic injuries from, for example, a car accident, then YES, I would seek the help of a qualified medical team. But that is the only time I would want the help of an MD. I am able to look after all other circumstances (but agree that I am unusual in this regard). If I had cancer or diabetes or Lupus or Multiple Sclerosis or Arthritis or several other chronic or auto-immune related disorders, THEN I WOULD DEFINITELY NOT SEEK THE HELP OF CONVENTIONAL MEDICAL CARE. The point is mute as I clearly know how to prevent such conditions. Prevention is my passion. If someone already has sepsis or some other dire condition, then medical care may be a necessary COMPLEMENT to actions that the individual can also initiate ... to help their own immune system recover from the assault. Of course most children and many adults have no idea how to do this and few doctors have the time or motivation to educate patients about self care. I am not blaming doctors ... and I believe most doctors have good intentions. But the system is terribly flawed. I have no desire to argue, and my tone here is not angry ... I consider this a friendly debate and do not wish to offend ... you have a right to your opinion, but I will continue with my viewpoint: I am not a physician, but I have worked in several hospitals in Canada, Australia and the United States and I have seen terrible things happen in hospitals. I have seen doctors prescribe powerful drugs such as Prednisone to young, newly diagnosed Multiple Sclerosis patients. These drugs merely depress the immune system further and lead to a viscious cycle of repeat admissions and deteriorating health. I have seen diabetic patients put on high carbohydrate diets, labelled with the term "Brittle Diabetes" and end up on high doses of insulin, resulting in retinopathy, kidney failure and blindness. I have seen patients who have had multiple back surgeries and been put on so many drugs that no human could possibly understand the potential for negative interactions. I have seen patients with bleeding ulcers directly caused by drugs. And I have seen the same patients prescribed more drugs to treat the problem that was directly caused by the first recommendations. I have seen young children have brain surgery for epilepsy when a change of diet would have CURED their condition (see similiar true stories from John's Hopkins Medical Center in the Meryl Streep Movie entitled: First Do No Harm) I have seen Doctors who order multiple medical "tests" that do absolutely nothing for quality of life and seem to care only about getting people back for their next appointment ... nothing else. I have been to medical conferences where physicians are wined and dined on lobster dinners in exchange for listening to pharmaceutical reps describe their latest drugs. I have been to several American Diabetes Conferences where there is so much money being made on the suffering of others ... without a care about what really works. It's disgusting. I have seen children put on Ritalin for ADD (an utterly STUPID and made up diagnosis for kids who are simply poorly nourished). They end up on a lifetime of drugs ... ridiculous. Just like the new drug for RLS (restless leg syndrome). Another ridiculous diagnosis ... so we can make up the need for a drug to "cure" it. Heavens! If you're legs are crawling with RLS ... could it possibly a nutritional imbalance? Or, no, your legs are restless because of a shortage of drug ABC. Pleeeeeeese! It is absurd! I have seen men prescribed Viagra, because no one has the time or motivation to educate them about diet and cardiovascular health. I have seen patients prescribed Prosac and Zoloft when a simple dietary change could cure them of depression ... but no one has the time to educate people about essential fatty acids and their role in mental health. My own father had his life ruined by a surgeon in Scotland who did "exploratory surgery" for his ulcers. The doctor accidentally cut the common bile duct, which left my dad with a lifetime of misery and repeat hospital admissions, prior to his premature death because his digestive tract was in ruins (thanks to medical care). Again, I am not blaming doctors ... they are trained in the medical model. They are paid for prescribing drugs and recommending surgery. You may be different ... perhaps you DO try to educate your patients. If so, I applaud you, but I have not seen much of this in my many years of hospital work. You think it is ludicrous that people are worse off if they have MORE access to medical "care." Again, you are entitled to your opinion, but I don't find it at all surprising. I wish you well, C.C.

Edited by calmcookie, 07 January 2006 - 03:34 PM.