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[maineman]

Read this PDF article if you are interested.

The American Journal of Medicine
Volume 119 • Number 6 • June 2006
Lymphoma Article

[calmcookie]

Read this PDF article if you are interested.

The American Journal of Medicine
Volume 119 • Number 6 • June 2006
Lymphoma Article

Am curious as to what, exactly, this man did to try to "alkalize?"
I may have missed it, but did not see any specifics in the article. Are you
aware of what he did to himself in an attempt to "alkalize?"

Thank you.

Edited by calmcookie, 13 June 2006 - 07:26 AM.

[maineman]

Read this PDF article if you are interested.

The American Journal of Medicine
Volume 119 • Number 6 • June 2006
Lymphoma Article

Am curious as to what, exactly, this man did to try to "alkalize?"
I may have missed it, but did not see any specifics in the article. Are you
aware of what he did to himself in an attempt to "alkalize?"

Thank you.

Interesting article, don't you agree? The author is Dr. Matthew Poggi, MD, Division of Radiation Oncology, Bethesda, MD

If you write to him he will tell you what he knows about his patients "alternative" therapies. In the Presentation in the article the authors mention "intravenous alkalinization, clay ingestion and other alternative interventions"

[calmcookie]

Maineman, I don't think it's necessary to have a war between "alternative" medicine and "conventional" medicine. I'm really not for one OR the other. I was educated in a conservative Presbyterian institution. You can't get much more traditional, then Queen's University in Canada. I may not always be correct and I am sure you know many things about medicine that I do not .... but rest assured that I'm a logical and reasonable person. I completely agree that there are some dangerous alternative "quack" approaches out there .... just as there are many dangerous procedures done in conventional hospitals. I am not for or against one or the other. I am only for reasonable discussion of intelligent evidence. I am for the prevention of human suffering. Why can't it be an inclusive debate ... this AND this ..... not one or the other ..... black or white. I agree that I may make mistakes occasionally, but I am also not the enemy. Dr. Varro Tyler, former Dean of Pharmacy at Purdue University and a passionate herbal advocate said that he was not accepted by conventional medicine and he was not accepted by the alternative herbalist. He held a middle ground and he once quipped that it was the best ground to be on. He was, I believe, an incredibly honest and intelligent man. He had the courage to stand up for what he believed in and to make logical arguments for his positions. And it's not an easy thing to do .... it's not a popular position. My position is also not popular. I still work in the conventional system .... but I know that there are options that we are not offering patients. Options that could be of tremendous help. Dr. Tyler wrote over 300 scientific papers and several books on the chemistry / safety and hazards of herbal medicine. Any sensible person would recognize his meticulous attention to scientific detail .... while being open to the genuine benefit of some herbs. So how can you just blanket all "alternative" medicine as being "quackery" ..... that approach does not seem intelligent to me. Not at all. But, this is only my humble opinion. I am only a nurse. C.C.

Edited by calmcookie, 13 June 2006 - 10:34 AM.

[maineman]

"So how can you just
blanket all "alternative" medicine as being "quackery" ..... that approach does not seem
intelligent to me at all. Not at all. But, this is only my humble opinion."

I never said this. I never even said anything remotely like this. Please be careful of your accusations and your assumptions.

I simply posted an interesting article from the June edition of the "green" journal about a man with lymphoma. I thought it was interesting on several fronts and thought others might appreciate reading it.

It is one of dozens of articles I read everyday in my practice of medicine.

The article demonstrates the effectiveness of radiation for this type of lymphoma, even after a person has let it advance. The article discusses how "CHOP" therapy would have cured the disease. The article mentions the fact that this person is going to die because he chose to avoid standard medical care (at least so far).

Finally, there is no "WAR" between therapies. As you know we test anything that may be of use in the care and treatment of human beings. If a therapy of any kind is found to be effective we use it on behalf of our patients. ANY treatment that may be valid is subject to rigorous testing and retesting. AND those findings are modified over time as new data accrues.

The only "war" comes from those practioners or individuals who "claim" to have an answer but are unwilling to wait until their ideas are subjected to the same equitable process.

Edited by maineman, 13 June 2006 - 10:41 AM.

[SemiBizz]

I see, so your contention is that Lymphoma did not nearly kill the patient... SURE Furthermore, Ms Kittycat was talking about alkalinization as a means of prevention, not "INTRAVENOUS" treatment.

Edited by SemiBizz, 13 June 2006 - 10:47 AM.

[maineman]

I see, so your contention is that Lymphoma did not nearly kill the patient...

SURE



Furthermore, Ms Kittycat was talking about alkalinization as a means of prevention, not "INTRAVENOUS" treatment.

Lymphoma IS going to kill this patient because he refused standard care, which WORKS and chose CLAY and ALKALINE IV therapy. So yes, ALKALINIZATION did kill him.

Got a problem with that?