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[dcengr]

Paul Tudor Jones of the Tudor Futures Fund Profiled at StreetStories
October 08, 2005

Market Wizards Index: +99%
Compound annual over 5 years

Fund or affiliation
# Tudor Futures Fund

Methodology
# Opportunistic and contrarian attempt to trade market tops and bottoms in futures with an emphasis on risk control.

Research Techniques Employed
# Thinks Marty Zweig and Ned Davies are great. Pretcher is best because he the ultimate market opportunist.
# He attributes a lot of his success to Elliott Wave approach.

Trading Techniques Employed
# Contrarian attempt to buy and sell turning points. Keep trying the single trade idea until he changes his mind, fundamentally. Otherwise, he will keep cutting his position size down. Then he will be trading the smallest amount when his trading is worst.
# Considers himself as a premier market opportunist. When he developed an idea he will pursue it from a very-low-risk standpoint until he has been proven wrong repeatedly, or until he changed his viewpoint.
# Swing trader, the best money is made at the market turns. His missed a lot of meat in the middle, but caught a lot of tops and bottoms.

Risk Management Techniques Employed
# Spends his day making himself happy and relaxed. Gets out if a losing position is making him uncomfortable. Nothing’s better than a fresh start. Key is to play great defense, not great offense.
# Never average losers. Decreases his trading size when he is doing poorly, increase when he is trading well.
# He has mental stops. If it hits that number, he is out no matter what. He uses not only price stops, but time stops.
# Monitors the whole portfolio equity (risk) in realtime.

Philosophy and beliefs
# He believes prices move first and fundamentals come second.
# He doesn’t care about mistakes made 3 seconds ago, but what he is going to do from the next moment on.
# Don't be a hero. Don't have an ego. Always question yourself and your ability. Don’t ever feel that you are very good. The second you do, you are dead.

History and other facts
# Flamboyant lifestyle - Chesapeake Bay Mansion, private 3000-acre wildlife preserve, beautiful women, fine restaurants.
# Charitable fund to finance college education of 85 elementary school graduates in part of Brooklyn.
# Personal intensity in trading - "Buy 300 at even! Go, go, go! Are we in? Speak to me!"
# An article he read at college on Richard Dennis inspired him to be a trader. "I thought that Dennis had the greatest job in the world."
# Eli Tullis, a famous cotton trader, was his teacher. Tullis taught that trading is very competitive and you have to be able to handle getting your butt kicked.
# 85% of his net worth is in his funds.

Performance Record
# 99% over 5 years: "Combine 5 consecutive, triple-digit return years with very low equity retracements. (... fudging slightly; in 1986, ... only a 99.2% gain!)" MW by Jack Schwager 1989.
# In the month of October, 1987, Tudor Futures Fund registered a 62% gain.

[Jnavin]

I really like the guy. He doesn't fit into today's hedge fund world -- don't think he's ever used derivatives to put on a collar, for example. It's just long or short at the bottom or top and let's go!

[kc135a]

Paul Tudor Jones of the Tudor Futures Fund Profiled at StreetStories
October 08, 2005

Market Wizards Index: +99%
Compound annual over 5 years

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Took me years to figure this out ....

"Key is to play great defense, not great offense."

Take care of the losers and the winners will take care of the rest.

KC

[da_cheif]

PTJ........8k a year client of mine.....

[dcengr]

PTJ........8k a year client of mine.....

How is it that you earn $8k a year from him and he earns hundreds of millions?

[dasein]

PTJ........8k a year client of mine.....

How is it that you earn $8k a year from him and he earns hundreds of millions?

Didnt the article say he is a CONTRARIAN?

(couldnt resist)

klh

[da_cheif]

PTJ........8k a year client of mine.....

How is it that you earn $8k a year from him and he earns hundreds of millions?

ya u would think i would get a 10 mill tip ur sumthing......lol

[dcengr]

PTJ........8k a year client of mine.....

How is it that you earn $8k a year from him and he earns hundreds of millions?

ya u would think i would get a 10 mill tip ur sumthing......lol

Better question is.. why aren't YOU earning hundreds of millions per year?

[securelstmile]

When da chief stops getting poked. I am soooooo going short.