Hey guys,
What are my options when it comes to shorting us treasuries? I have looked at things like TBT (ultra short) and because I would like to build a long term position, feel that this is not the right tool.
Is there a way to just buy the rates, something like $TNX?
I guess the most straight forward way would be to short futures, but I am looking for alternatives.
TIA!
Shorting bonds
Started by
rkd80
, Jan 12 2009 01:47 PM
4 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 12 January 2009 - 01:47 PM
“be right and sit tight”
#2
Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:23 PM
tlt/tbt ...put/call ..options........or .tyx ..options..........rydex fundx..ryjux
http://finance.yahoo...TBT&k=40.000000
http://finance.yahoo...TBT&k=40.000000
vitaminm
#3
Posted 12 January 2009 - 04:04 PM
tlt/tbt ...put/call ..options........or .tyx ..options..........rydex fundx..ryjux
http://finance.yahoo...TBT&k=40.000000
tlt/tbt are not practical, tlt is just very under leveraged while tbt is bad for long term.
options are time sensitive.
RYJUX i looked at earlier, is the fee they charge reasonable?
“be right and sit tight”
#4
Posted 12 January 2009 - 04:37 PM
ryjux.........and rest
no trading cost!
FEES & EXPENSES
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=RYJUX
http://finance.yahoo...p;c=RYGBX,RYJUX
no trading cost!
FEES & EXPENSES
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=RYJUX
http://finance.yahoo...p;c=RYGBX,RYJUX
vitaminm
#5
Posted 12 January 2009 - 10:38 PM
[quote name='rkd80' date='Jan 12 2009, 01:47 PM' post='426379']
Hey guys,
What are my options when it comes to shorting us treasuries? I have looked at things like TBT (ultra short) and because I would like to build a long term position, feel that this is not the right tool.
Is there a way to just buy the rates, something like $TNX?
I guess the most straight forward way would be to short futures, but I am looking for alternatives.
TIA!
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Track high yield Phk , Ark, Coy Khi-----these started to turn late Dec 2008.
Hey guys,
What are my options when it comes to shorting us treasuries? I have looked at things like TBT (ultra short) and because I would like to build a long term position, feel that this is not the right tool.
Is there a way to just buy the rates, something like $TNX?
I guess the most straight forward way would be to short futures, but I am looking for alternatives.
TIA!
[/quote
Track high yield Phk , Ark, Coy Khi-----these started to turn late Dec 2008.










