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#1 tommyt

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 10:59 AM

VIX should now start to rise as anticipation of something bigger starts. I have bot a bunch of Jan calls and shorted stock (backspread) expecting a large move either way. The SPX hourly has a huge divergence building, either way I dont think its gonna sit still, and my bias is down.

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#2 beahero

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:07 AM

VIX should now start to rise as anticipation of something bigger starts. I have bot a bunch of Jan calls and shorted stock (backspread) expecting a large move either way.


I agree with your view. I'm curious only: Which strike did you buy on the VIX?

#3 SilentOne

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:11 AM

If we take out today's lows, a BIG correction has started in everything to do with risk. cheers, john
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#4 tommyt

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:14 AM

VIX should now start to rise as anticipation of something bigger starts. I have bot a bunch of Jan calls and shorted stock (backspread) expecting a large move either way.


I agree with your view. I'm curious only: Which strike did you buy on the VIX?


i did a basket of things: SPY,VIX,GS,AMZN,TZA,CAT

#5 beahero

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:21 AM

VIX should now start to rise as anticipation of something bigger starts. I have bot a bunch of Jan calls and shorted stock (backspread) expecting a large move either way.


I agree with your view. I'm curious only: Which strike did you buy on the VIX?


i did a basket of things: SPY,VIX,GS,AMZN,TZA,CAT


I guess I misunderstood your post with a reference to VIX followed by a statement that you bought calls. Perhaps you're saying you have a synthetic backspread with long calls hedging your short shock (& ETF) positions...?

Anyway, I was really only trying to get a sense for what strike levels you thought might soon go into the money on the VIX?

#6 tommyt

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 11:23 AM

Anyway, I was really only trying to get a sense for what strike levels you thought might soon go into the money on the VIX? I bot VIX 25 strike calls.

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Posted 11 November 2009 - 01:29 PM

If there's one thing that we learned it's that a 70 point decline in the spx got the attention of the Fed and its bigazz pile of money. It's reasonable to assume they will not willingly allow a 70+ pt decline as long as they still have money to prop with.