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Rogerdodger
Climategate U-turn: World may not be warming, say scientists...

'Lost the relevant papers'...

Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995


Professor Jones said that for the past 15 years there has been no ‘statistically significant’ warming.Professor Jones also conceded the possibility that the world was warmer in medieval times than now – suggesting global warming may not be a man-made phenomenon.

Skeptics Real scientists said this was the first time a senior scientist working with the IPCC had admitted to the possibility that the Medieval Warming Period could have been global, and therefore the world could have been hotter then than now.

Professor Jones admitted the lack of organisation in the system had contributed to his reluctance to share data with critics, which he regretted.
But Dr Benny Pieser, director of the sceptical real scientists' Global Warming Policy Foundation, said Professor Jones’s ‘excuses’ for his failure to share data were hollow as he had shared it with colleagues and ‘mates’.

He said that until all the data was released, sceptics real scientists could not test it to see if it supported the conclusions claimed by climate change advocates.

He added that the professor’s concessions over medieval warming were ‘significant’ because they were his first public admission that the science was not settled.




maineman
Some help from Bill Nye the Science Guy:

Link

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OEXCHAOS
C'mon. It's hooey. Nothing scientific.

The FACT, is, there's been no warming over the past 12 years or more. No legerdemain will change that.

If you, as a highly trained professional in a scientific field care to weigh in, I'm going to say, do better. We're not buying the line any more. Not at all. The science supports skepticism.

If you aren't a skeptic, then you're naive or you have an agenda or, you're intellectually lazy.

I'm accusing you, personally of the latter. Prove me wrong, or promise me a beer.

I'll match you with one but that's beside the point regardless of the outcome.

M
Rogerdodger
Climate scientists withdraw claims of rising sea levels...
Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.

Didn't they say the science was settled? laugh.gif

I think maybe the settlement wasn't science.
OEXCHAOS
It's shocking and disturbing to me how much utter garbage has been fed to a trusting public in the name of science. Most people don't know how bad it really is, but with each new revelation they are becoming more and more cynical about science in general. One arcane "error" in an IPCC study isn't enough to change anyone's views, but with new evidence of chicanery being presented as truth, sloppy science being presented as "settle science", and propaganda being presented as science itself, people are getting the message.

This is bad for science and bad for humanity.

The climate alarmists should be ashamed.

Rogerdodger
If you believe in witches and you look for witches, a wart is proof enough.
Add a fearful crowd with pitchforks you have the makings of a witch burning.

See how the scientific method can be used based on a wart and some fudged data. LINK

But it's not the first time:
The Piltdown hoax is perhaps the most famous paleontological hoax in history. It has been prominent for two reasons: the attention paid to the issue of human evolution, and the length of time (more than 40 years) that elapsed from its discovery to its full exposure as a forgery.
stocks
Mission Impossible - Climategate

Climatologist to a climatologist: "Confidential...This message will self destruct in 10 seconds"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWjEj1uYobw
stocks
New leak of hacked global warming scientist emails

'We're choosing periods to show warming'
'Science is being manipulated - it might not be too clever in the long run'
'Climate change is a "better label" than global warming
'


"I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should
never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year
“reconstruction”."

Briffa:
"I find myself in the strange position of being very skeptical of the quality of
all present reconstructions, yet sounding like a pro greenhouse zealot here!"

Climategate 2


Climategate 2
stocks
We are on track to break a 100 year record for the longest gap between major hurricanes hitting the mainland.

2005

Global warming will produce more hurricanes like Katrina. The science is settled.

2011

It has been 2,226 days since the last major hurricane (Category 3 or higher) hit the US mainland. The science is settled.


link
stocks
24 New Year’s Resolutions For Climate Scientists

I will admit that warming has been much slower than we expected
I will admit that recent sea level rise is nothing unusual or threatening
I will admit that our forecasts of declining snow cover were wrong
I will admit that Arctic temperatures are cyclical, and that we have no idea what will happen to Arctic ice over the next 50 years
I will admit that our forecasts of Antarctic warming have been a total failure.
I will admit that Polar Bear populations are not threatened
I will admit that climate models have demonstrated no skill, and are nothing more than research projects

etc, etc, etc

real science
stocks
The planet-savers are losing the war

despite the disparity of money and media, the alarmists know they are losing.

The planet-savers have millions of dollars available to the climate orthodox from governments, transnational bodies (the UN and the EU, for example), from chairtable foundations and big-dollar environmentalists (Greenpeace, WWF etc), the money available to sceptics is tiny. I mean really, really, really tiny.

And it's not just the money, it's also the media. The climate orthodox have at their disposal most of the world's mass media - from the bastions of climate alarmism at the BBC and the Guardian, to well-funded web sites such as RealClimate, DeSmogBlog and others.

And yet, despite the money and the media, the climate alarmists know they are losing support. Despite everything that they have done to subvert peer review - and the Climategate emails showed us what was going on, more and more papers are being published which cast doubt on the alarmism.

While the disparity of forces puts the financial interests and media support firmly in the alarmist camp, the sceptics have some obvious strengths. The first and most obvious is an eye to detail and meticulous picking apart of data among a sizeable camp of sceptics. They are used to poring over data, of looking behind the obvious and of teasing things out of the most unlikely sources. These skills are highly prized in sceptic circles - just as they used to be prized in scientific circles.


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stocks
QUOTE (stocks @ Feb 21 2012, 05:38 PM) *
The planet-savers are losing the war

despite the disparity of money and media, the alarmists know they are losing.

Despite everything that they have done to subvert peer review - and the Climategate emails showed us what was going on, more and more papers are being published which cast doubt on the alarmism.

The threat of a spectacular crumble is becoming real.


Global temperatures remaining flat over 15 years, defying model projections.

Not long ago global warming science was considered settled here. So much so that climate protection has long since been institutionalized. Now it’s all starting to look like a very expensive mistake.


http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/17/max-pla...h-observations/
voltaire
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 17 2012, 09:56 PM) *
QUOTE (stocks @ Feb 21 2012, 05:38 PM) *
The planet-savers are losing the war

despite the disparity of money and media, the alarmists know they are losing.

Despite everything that they have done to subvert peer review - and the Climategate emails showed us what was going on, more and more papers are being published which cast doubt on the alarmism.

The threat of a spectacular crumble is becoming real.


Global temperatures remaining flat over 15 years, defying model projections.

Not long ago global warming science was considered settled here. So much so that climate protection has long since been institutionalized. Now it’s all starting to look like a very expensive mistake.


http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/17/max-pla...h-observations/



Its so funny to see the US citizens with their beliefs in fairies at the bottom of the garden dismissing 98% of climate scientists and trying to insist the 2% are the realists.

It isn't surprising considering how the US education level has retreated to almost 3rd world levels.
stocks
James Lovelock, Father of "Gaia", Admits He Was Wrong

In 2006, in an article in the U.K.’s Independent newspaper, he wrote that “before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.”


“The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear-cut, but it hasn’t happened,” Lovelock said.

In 2007, Time magazine named Lovelock as one of 13 leaders and visionaries in an article on “Heroes of the Environment,” which also included Gore, Mikhail Gorbachev and Robert Redford.

'I made a mistake'
As “an independent and a loner,” he said he did not mind saying “All right, I made a mistake.” He claimed a university or government scientist might fear an admission of a mistake would lead to the loss of funding.


http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/...-climate-change
voltaire
It is amazing that 98% of climate scientists have formed a conspiracy.

I think we should burn them at the stake.

The plebians are always correct and the quicker we get rid of experts the better.
voltaire
QUOTE (voltaire @ Apr 25 2012, 02:59 AM) *
It is amazing that 98% of climate scientists have formed a conspiracy.

I think we should burn them at the stake.

The plebians are always correct and the quicker we get rid of experts the better.



The world has become toxic when we prefer the views of nutters over distinguished scientists.

We look like emulating the dark ages that religion caused once before.

Yep, its "faith" before evidence.

So so sad!
stocks
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 24 2012, 08:16 PM) *
James Lovelock, Father of "Gaia", Admits He Was Wrong
He claimed a university or government scientist might fear an admission of a mistake would lead to the loss of funding.

Next year (2013) we'll see the mad rush for the exits.
The planet-savers will be in panic to salvage their reputations.
stocks
Steve McIntyre calls IPCC reports drivel for hippies

Recently McIntyre had been examining two IPCC reports: the May 2011 report on renewables (SRREN - Special Report on Renewable Energy Sources and Climate Change) by IPCC Working Group 3, and this year's report on climate extremes, SREX, by Working Group 2.

McIntyre said the publication of SRREN had followed the "despicable IPCC practice" of issuing an alarmist press release "that had the opportunity to run around the world" six weeks before issuing the report. The press release claimed that 80 per cent of the world's energy needs could be met by renewable energy by 2050.

It transpired that the 80 per cent figure was based on a Greenpeace study, a Greenpeace activist was lead author of the chapter assessing the Greenpeace study, and no due diligence on this scenario had been performed.

McIntyre examined the SREX dossier and found it largely wanting.

"Much of the report was drivel, probably most of it. The fact there are a few sensible observations aren't enough to repay the effort."

McIntyre typically pulls no punches: he has in the past criticised the integrity of the paleoclimatologist community's temperature reconstructions, revealing on his blog cherry-picked data, upside-down data, and statistical methods that create hockey-stick shapes from red (random) noise.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/17/mcintyre_in_london/


Rogerdodger
QUOTE
It is amazing that 98% of climate scientists have formed a conspiracy.

1632 BREAKING NEWS: 98% of scientists claim earth is flat!
(Except for those stinking skeptical Germans)
Galileo to be tried for the Heresy of skepticism.

The Crime of Galileo:
Indictment and Abjuration of 1633
Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzio Galilei, of Florence, aged seventy years, were denounced in 1615, to this Holy Office, for holding as true a false doctrine taught by many, namely, that the sun is immovable in the center of the world, and that the earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; also, for having pupils whom you instructed in the same opinions; also, for maintaining a correspondence on the same with some German mathematicians; also for publishing certain letters on the sun-spots, in which you developed the same doctrine as true...

GALILEO'S ABJURATION. (aka: Peer Pressure is HELL!)
... I swear that for the future I will neither say nor assert in speaking or writing such things as may bring upon me similar suspicion; and if I know any heretic, or one suspected of heresy, I will denounce him to this Holy Office, or to the Inquisitor and Ordinary of the place in which I may be.

"OUT DAMNED (SUN) SPOTS!" laugh.gif
stocks
The Progressive Radio Network interviews Berkeley Physicist Prof Richard Muller

On Climategate – “What they did was, I think, shameful - it was scientific malpractice - if they had done this at Berkeley or Stanford, I think they would have been shamed. The standards held over there at the University of East Anglia are just not up to what we consider standard scientific methods.

Richard Muller: “right after Katrina, 2005, people said “We can now expect a whole bunch of more storms”. In the next year, not a single hurricane hit the U.S.”

When people exaggerate, they try to come up with dramatic examples to convince the public. That’s the wrong way to go. People now feel as if they’ve been misled.”

Richard Muller: “The NOAA announced that this is the warmest year on record for the United States – that immediately surprised me because I’ve been looking at the world record, and I’d seen that the temperature had actually gone down, compared to the last five years.

So I looked it up, and sure enough, the 2% of the world that happens to be the United States is a record warm, the 98% of the world, the rest of it, was actually cool.

To call that “global warming” – and the globe isn’t warming - is just an attempt to grab headlines .. to get the public interested in this important issue.”

Vice President Al Gore had so many exaggerations in his movie, that I think there’s a backlash now.


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/09/a-fa...ic-malpractice/
stocks
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 17 2012, 07:56 PM) *
QUOTE (stocks @ Feb 21 2012, 05:38 PM) *
The planet-savers are losing the war

despite the disparity of money and media, the alarmists know they are losing.

Despite everything that they have done to subvert peer review - and the Climategate emails showed us what was going on, more and more papers are being published which cast doubt on the alarmism.

The threat of a spectacular crumble is becoming real.


Global temperatures remaining flat over 15 years, defying model projections.

Not long ago global warming science was considered settled here. So much so that climate protection has long since been institutionalized. Now it’s all starting to look like a very expensive mistake.

http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/17/max-pla...h-observations/

Despite massive increase in CO2 emissions, global warming has disappeared.

The chart the Alarmists do not want you to see. Human Carbon emissions vs. The ‘Gold Standard’ global temperature data set.
The alarmists are now fighting hard to protect their reputations and their damaged careers, not fighting to protect a failed theory of Dangerous Human GHG warming.



http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/23/burt...-says-it-clear/

stocks
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 25 2012, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 24 2012, 08:16 PM) *
James Lovelock, Father of "Gaia", Admits He Was Wrong
He claimed a university or government scientist might fear an admission of a mistake would lead to the loss of funding.

Next year (2013) we'll see the mad rush for the exits.
The planet-savers will be in panic to salvage their reputations.



As predicted, serious people with reputations are jumping off the global warming bandwagon and leaving the kooks behind.

Mark Morano explains:

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2289444765001
*JB*
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 10 2013, 09:38 AM) *
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 25 2012, 04:25 PM) *
QUOTE (stocks @ Apr 24 2012, 08:16 PM) *
James Lovelock, Father of "Gaia", Admits He Was Wrong
He claimed a university or government scientist might fear an admission of a mistake would lead to the loss of funding.

Next year (2013) we'll see the mad rush for the exits.
The planet-savers will be in panic to salvage their reputations.



As predicted, serious people with reputations are jumping off the global warming bandwagon and leaving the kooks behind.

Mark Morano explains:

[url="http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2289444765001"[/url]


Bad link -- put in another from a newspaper below

I guess this scientist doesn't believe in science.

""But in an interview with msnbc.com, he (James Lovelock) admitted: 'I made a mistake.'

He said: 'The problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing,' he told 'We thought we knew 20 years ago. That led to some alarmist books – mine included – because it looked clear cut, but it hasn’t happened. ""

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21...l#ixzz2Q77he43n
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