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#1 MikeyG

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 11:40 AM

Does anyone think we go straight to new lows from here??? I know most think this is pullback, but I am looking at a nice pattern developing in currencies suggesting much, much more dowside.... Obvioulsy, the market will be our guide, just seeing what people are thinking out there...

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 11:47 AM

If we do not see the equities recover around 1090s quickly, you may be right... 1075 or gap must trigger a strong rally. This can get very slippery to the downside otherwise, the sentiment setup suggests roughly the opposite though...

Edited by arbman, 15 July 2010 - 11:49 AM.


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Posted 15 July 2010 - 11:48 AM

I think we have a good chance that we go down for a while from here. We need to see how far this pullback takes us. Currently 8-day MA is still below the 34-day MA on SPX and QQQQ. If we head down from here hard we could signal another significant leg down in equities. Short term we are overbought and need a pullback. My BDI analysis shows the rally we are having will not likely last past August 10th. Since it continues to fall lower and lower everyday, I feel it will pull equities with it. Barry

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 11:52 AM

Does anyone think we go straight to new lows from here???

I know most think this is pullback, but I am looking at a nice pattern developing in currencies suggesting much, much more dowside....

Obvioulsy, the market will be our guide, just seeing what people are thinking out there...

I think we see new lows i just dont know if this or 1120 is the top.

There is alot of bears on rydex But i am pretty sure any up moves are just short covering. I ll let the market speak for now and see what it closes today.

If they close near flat it going to make a doji. the best is a formation of a triple doji. any surges there can be short with a big move to the down side.
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:03 PM

I think we have a good chance that we go down for a while from here. We need to see how far this pullback takes us. Currently 8-day MA is still below the 34-day MA on SPX and QQQQ. If we head down from here hard we could signal another significant leg down in equities. Short term we are overbought and need a pullback. My BDI analysis shows the rally we are having will not likely last past August 10th. Since it continues to fall lower and lower everyday, I feel it will pull equities with it.

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#6 stocktrender

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:06 PM

Does anyone think we go straight to new lows from here???

I know most think this is pullback, but I am looking at a nice pattern developing in currencies suggesting much, much more dowside....

Obvioulsy, the market will be our guide, just seeing what people are thinking out there...

I think we see new lows i just dont know if this or 1120 is the top.

There is alot of bears on rydex But i am pretty sure any up moves are just short covering. I ll let the market speak for now and see what it closes today.

If they close near flat it going to make a doji. the best is a formation of a triple doji. any surges there can be short with a big move to the down side.

I am looking for S&P 980 by the close of Tuesday. Don't quote me on that. Its just an estamate. We have to break 1050 first though by Tomorrows close.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:07 PM

Does anyone think we go straight to new lows from here???

I know most think this is pullback, but I am looking at a nice pattern developing in currencies suggesting much, much more dowside....

Obvioulsy, the market will be our guide, just seeing what people are thinking out there...


I am playing this as a pullback, but open minded about new lows, given that the daily charts are still in a established downtrend. Too early for me to make that determination.

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#8 porsche911sg

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:16 PM

Does anyone think we go straight to new lows from here???

I know most think this is pullback, but I am looking at a nice pattern developing in currencies suggesting much, much more dowside....

Obvioulsy, the market will be our guide, just seeing what people are thinking out there...

I think we see new lows i just dont know if this or 1120 is the top.

There is alot of bears on rydex But i am pretty sure any up moves are just short covering. I ll let the market speak for now and see what it closes today.

If they close near flat it going to make a doji. the best is a formation of a triple doji. any surges there can be short with a big move to the down side.

I am looking for S&P 980 by the close of Tuesday. Don't quote me on that. Its just an estamate. We have to break 1050 first though by Tomorrows close.

I am looking for 980 as and yes we need to break 1050, I was think we get a big down tom, than down trend starts , we should carry down to 870. Or at worst 800 which should mark the final low for this year.

Unfortunately I am not getting any topping signals yet on my system. I am also suspect es will close around 1087-1088 flat at close. Than we have another gap up which will fail and mark the start. If es 1081 is not taken out today i think they will rally it back up today. So if you going to win it today es must be below 1080.

I seriously dont see that.
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#9 rkd80

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:19 PM

We are not ready for new lows!!!! We are likely in a bull->bear transition and there will be 3 weeks of bullish chop ahead. That is, we need to get overbought at some point before the bear leg starts, this sell-off from this morning is meaningless in the intermediate run. I am holding shorts from 2 days ago, but only because we were overbought.
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Posted 15 July 2010 - 12:50 PM

Does anyone think we go straight to new lows from here???

I know most think this is pullback, but I am looking at a nice pattern developing in currencies suggesting much, much more dowside....

Obvioulsy, the market will be our guide, just seeing what people are thinking out there...


I am playing this as a pullback, but open minded about new lows, given that the daily charts are still in a established downtrend. Too early for me to make that determination.


I piggy-backed some TZA when the down volume picked up at 10:00 on top of the with the SDS I set up late yesterday afternoon. Sold them both 20 minutes later when the volume started dropping. I've been flat since then not wanting to take a position as the volume is almost non-existent. This hasn been a very treachorous couple of days.

Edited by milbank, 15 July 2010 - 12:50 PM.

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