Edited by Jhoe, 16 July 2010 - 03:47 PM.
Alot of mixed opinions here.....but only 1 right answer to these questions
#1
Posted 16 July 2010 - 03:44 PM
#2
Posted 16 July 2010 - 04:40 PM
Ladies/Gentleman, we are going down to 1044, theres no two ways about it. No debate, no ifs, ands or buts. I posted the bearish crab chart on here like 3 times last week, we had to get above 1108 to make the CD extension long enough to question the pattern's validity. For anyone not familiar with this pattern, its a harmonic pattern, sort of in the "Gartley Family" of patterns if that makes sense. But it just uses different fib levels than a gartley, and more noticeably, doesn't contain an AB=CD corrective wave. Instead, the final leg up, which will fool alot of longs into thinking a new uptrend has started, will extend/project to abnormally long levels after a fast AB/BC two wave retracement of XA. The long CD leg can project 1.618 of BC on the short side, or as long as 3.618. Also, the final point D, like with a butterfly pattern, will be between a 1.27 and 1.618 projection of the XA leg that started the pattern out. I'm not on my computer, but I'll look back for the last thread I posted the chart in an repost it here. Note, it wont be updated but it will show you what I'm talking about.
Note, the pattern can complete and reverse after a .618 retracement of the final CD leg. On the S&P, thats around 1044. However, anyone else that trades butterflies, bats and other harmonics like the crab will know that a huge over-extended CD leg like the one we just had, 1044-1099, typically ends much more violently (and much more profitably if you're trading in at point D) around the 1.27 projection of the patterns A-D move. Again, no chart in front of me, but as I recall, that move was from 1010.91 to 1099.46 or so. So you're looking at a 1.27 projection of a 90+ point move down from 1099.46 (D). 1099-1010 is about 89 points, times 1.27 gives you 113 points. 1099 - 113 would brand new selloff low around 987-990.
Barring a game changing fundamental change, ie news from Fed/administration over the weekend, which I STRONGLY doubt, you're going to lose money being long ahead of those two points, 1044 and 987. As I said when I said not to underestimate this ole crab, dont say you weren't warned in advanceI did not add to shorts at this weeks' highs, too many whipsaws every day for this trader. I've been keeping it to small options day trades, and a handful of shorts I've had open as longer term trades. But I did open up huge positions in QQQQ puts and SPY puts today, but underneath approx. August 105s on the SPY, these were trading about $2.20 when I got in, they'd be worth a minimum of $8-9 if the market trades below 1000. On the QQQQs, I opened calls in Sept. 43 puts for around $1.35 each. The QQQQs would (the etf itself) probably trade to like $42.50/$42.75 by the time the SPX hits 1044, perhaps even lower depending on how some tech earnings go next week. Keep in mind those are September puts and I'm talking about a move that might happen in July still. THought those were fairly valued considering the downside potential.
everyone be careful out there...i did find a more recent chart ,attached is the crab on the QQQQs
Nice job. thanks for posting.
#3
Posted 16 July 2010 - 09:45 PM
#4
Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:48 PM
No indicator works in a BEAR MARKET... trust me i know them too well."Ladies/Gentleman, we are going down to 1044"
YOU ARE BEING NICE, WE ARE GOING WELL BELOW 1000. eVERYTHING IS ON A SELL SIGNAL AS OF THE CLOSE tODAY WITH THE PRELIMINARY UNCONFIRMED SELL i HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO AND POSTED RIGHT HERE.
tHE USUAL CULPRITS fxy:FXE AND THE $usd NOT TO MENTION THE bALTIC INDEX, THE ECRI REPORT, ETC. ETC.
tHOSE WHO LIVE AND DIE BY THE sUMMATION AND mco'S ARE NOW REALIZING THEY ONLY WORK IN STRONG UPTRENDS OR DOWNTRENDS BUT NOT ON THE WHIPSAW MARKETS WE'VE HAD SINCE EARLY MAY.....
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