Amy Winehouse: "Not going to rehab" found dead

Amy Winehouse Found Dead

"Rehab" Video

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know know
I ain't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
You tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go, go, go

I'd rather be at home with Ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cos there's nothing, nothing you can't teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway (Donny Hathaway was also found dead, ruled a suicide)

Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 July 2011 - 01:08 PM.

Over the years I have known many people who were blessed with healthy bodies and sound minds and watched them slowly destroy the gift of life with drugs and alcohol. I have also known many people who were born with physical handicaps or acquired physical misfortune in life. And so when I see people abusing themselves with alcohol and/or drugs it brings a feeling of contempt because they do not value what they have and someone else would pay any price to have...good health.

This guy is surely inspiring.
And what a great attitude!
Born with one leg, Arizona St. wrestler wins NCAA title

Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 July 2011 - 01:00 PM.

It's easy for those who aren't suffering from many of the depressive mental illnesses, genetic or otherwise, to look down on the character of those who use drugs to self-medicate or, refuse to take the medications that really would, if not alleviate, mellow the illness they suffer from. When one is suffering from the kind of depression and/or mental illness these people suffer from, the solutions that seem so easy to those who don't, are hard to accept. It may seem illogical to those who don't suffer from these forms of major depression or mental illness but, that is the difference between them and those who do. Bottom line, if you haven't been there, don't assume to know what it is like or make simplistic, arrogant judgements of them. Anyone who has ever heard Amy Winehouse knows what an incredibly unique, once in a generation talent she was, how she was obviously suffering for a long time and how sad her death is.

Edited by milbank, 23 July 2011 - 01:12 PM.

It's easy for those who aren't suffering from many of the depressive mental illnesses genetic or otherwise, to look down on the "character" of those who use drugs to self-medicate or, refuse to take the medications that really would, if not alleviate, mellow the illness they suffer from. When one is suffering from the kind of depression and/or mental illness these people suffer from, the solutions that seem so easy to those who don't, are hard to accept. It may seem illogical to those who don't suffer from these forms of major depression or mental illness but, that is the difference between them and those who do.

Bottom line, if you haven't been there, don't assume to know what it is like or make simplistic, arrogant judgements on them.

Anyone who has ever heard Amy Winehouse knows what an incredibly unique, once in a generation talent she was, how she was obviously suffering for a long time and how sad her death is.

ditto

It's just impossible for us mortals to see someone with such remarkable talents be so depressed.
We tend to think of in terms of reason and logic rather than medical issues with the mind.
That is: Famous Pop singers should be happy, whereas one legged wrestlers have reason to be depressed.
But we can't tell a depressed soul to "snap out of it" any more than we could tell a diabetic in a coma to "snap out of it."

One of my favorite Dr. Who episodes is where they bring Van Gogh into a modern museum and show him how much his work is admired today.
Yet he still ends his life.
It may be that the same emotional intensity which makes them so great, is also their end.

Feeling BLUE?

Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 July 2011 - 01:27 PM.

Amy Winehouse Found Dead

"Rehab" Video

They tried to make me go to rehab but I said no, no, no
Yes I've been black but when I come back you'll know, know know
I ain't got the time
And if my daddy thinks I'm fine
You tried to make me go to rehab but I won't go, go, go

I'd rather be at home with Ray
I ain't got seventy days
Cos there's nothing, nothing you can't teach me
That I can't learn from Mr Hathaway (Donny Hathaway was also found dead, ruled a suicide)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

Bottom line, if you haven't been there, don't assume to know what it is like or make simplistic, arrogant judgements of them.

I do not disagree with your thought. Some abusers suffer from depression or mental disabilities but very many folks do not. If one has impairments it does not dismiss the individuals responsibility to deal with the problem. Not everyone can or will but effort is still the individuals responsibility. It comes down to character...some have it and some do not. Not everyone is salvageable, however, most are with determination. As with many things in life, those at the end of the bell curve are playing with the odds stacked against them.


My comments above were not directed at Winehouse in particular but those who abuse their health with alcohol and drugs in general. I have seen very many personal acquaintances/friends leave the planet early because of their abusive nature. The sad thing is the grief they leave behind with their family and friends. Every day we all are able to choose the actions which contribute to our success or failure here on the planet. We all have choices.

I know I sound a bit preachy here but most people have no idea how to feed their body so it is healthy and how to move and be active as humans are meant to be. If you poison the body with drugs, booze and poor nutrition you have a prescription for disaster. Eat well and live long with mental and physical health.

Edited by Chilidawgz, 23 July 2011 - 01:34 PM.

My comments above were not directed at Winehouse in particular

"Amy Winehouse: "Not going to rehab" found dead" is what the thread is titled.
You made the post.

It comes down to character...some have it and some do not.

They don't call it "Mental Illness" for nothing.

Edited by milbank, 23 July 2011 - 01:42 PM.

One of my favorite comedians, in the vein of Steven Wright was Mitch Hedberg, dead at 37.
"His comical, almost-too-obvious observations about life's subtle peculiarities inspired Time magazine to declare the stand-up comic "the next Seinfeld" in 2000."

"Rice is great when you're hungry and want 2,000 of something"
"I would imagine if you understood Morse code, a tap dancer would drive you crazy"
"When someone hands you a flier, it's like they're saying, 'Here, you throw this away."

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Over the years I have known many people who were blessed with healthy bodies and sound minds and watched them slowly destroy the gift of life with drugs and alcohol.

I have also known many people who were born with physical handicaps or acquired physical misfortune in life.

And so when I see people abusing themselves with alcohol and/or drugs it brings a feeling of contempt because they do not value what they have and someone else would pay any price to have...good health.

She has died................and she was 27...........nothing else to say I think