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how about prop planes,they must be better on fuel.back to 55..higher tax on big engines in cars,tax on SUV's..more nuke,coal plants,garbage to energy plants,,dams for water ,and hygro power.all cheep to make elec. put people to work. I'm in ct the parking lots ,and trains are full, but they have a loss every yr. and need more tax $$ to keep them running ??? and need more trains, and lots.what's up w/ that...methane is most any were,but you need to pipe it.(nathural gas)..BUT NOT IN MY BACK YARD.......CRAP ...WE COULD GO ON AND ON. it will all work out when, and after we go back to gas lines..and take their heads out of their buts. just a note, my mother was in w/ oxy in the 60's,when they could build, ,bought in to cal, oil wells,but the boys wanted to use outher peoples oil up cause it was cheep,$ 2. per B.to $4,avg., then use our oil at a higher price.and that was smart..tex and cal,penn, off shore, up north,have a lot more wells to pipe......... more to come please add in..

indeed airlines have already started to use prop planes on many short hauls due to the high price of jet fuel. this in turn has benefitted Bombardier, one of the few companies making props today. klh

Many great ideas are not really feasible.

For example, this headline:

Tulsa trash-to-energy plant to close permanently
By Staff reports
7/20/2007 1:03 PM

Tulsa's Walter B. Hall Resource Recovery Facility will close its doors permanently on Monday.
It can no longer survive, representatives said.

A press conference is scheduled for 3 p.m. at the facility, 2122 S. Yukon Ave.

Although the city does not own the plant, Tulsa taxpayers paid for its $180 million cost through higher trash rates for the past 20 years.

How much energy was wasted building it?

roger.... they played that game here ,,trash to energy plant ,built bridgeport ct in the 70's ..w/ the plant that is their..oxy had it ,it was a bad thing ..and shut it down , for yrs...then they payed off the right people,and now it's working just fine... you will see in time..who got payed for the power they made.all the jobs it made..the right thing to do w/ the garbage ,or should you fill up some one's land that could not be sold at a good price,may be put it in a river..then you have the toxens to play w/,,just burn them off ..pay the right people ?

Where were you all during the 70ties? Do you not remember the gas lines? What resulted from all that? Now go forward 30 years. What will result from all this?

are you talking to me ? witch one 74 or 77,78. were you odd or even.got 10 gals.may be ? if they had any..what part of the us had all the gas one could use, or little .I was in the little.in 74 I was o k ,worked in a station part time,78 had friends, but all the fights ?? then the gov. had to fix it. ?? .started that 55mph,had a fight/mix up w/ opec oil inbargo.all the cars that got 6 mpg got parked,or sold.a $2000 car sold for $200.you know what I had to drive a $200 job. good deal for me.??.........and people started to think.........some stoped being pigs ? a little,smaller cars ,fixed up their homes,w/ tax brakes on windows,insulation,solar panals,car pools ,ect..me, me. me,knid of people. the party was over,some what .but it did help..you can in more....

The environmentalists are against hydro power even if you put in "fish ladders". Up here they fight it tooth and nail in courts. Claim it mess up the natural biology of the river. I've seen towns give up on generating their own power from local rivers. Seems anything that can help us like nuclear or hydo the envioronmentalists forbid it.

Edited by Sentient Being, 31 March 2008 - 03:48 AM.

we have great hydro here in N from niagara and from the flatter rivers, hydro quebec also...i really think it is how the power will be done not the idea - out west they have dammed so maney rivers just for agricultural water.

on green taxes here:

http://www.economist...a...75&fsrc=nwl

indeed airlines have already started to use prop planes on many short hauls due to the high price of jet fuel. this in turn has benefitted Bombardier, one of the few companies making props today.

klh

think bombardier mainly makes regional jets no props to speak of.



perhaps the unducted fan jet engine will come of age now....



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