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#1 MaryAM

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 09:18 PM

http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

This is an 8 part video but very worth the time. I hope this link works . I think it was made in 2002 but it is very applicable to today.
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#2 dcengr

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 09:38 PM

I know people use this type of logic to explain population growth and resource use. But nature tells you that this can't be. Just do the calculation for a colony of ants and you will soon find out that we should be over our head in ant mass by now. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN NATURE. Why? Pretty simple. Resource limitation caps growth. For humans, technology has expanded it, but more than likely, war+disease will cap it again. This is why I think we are about to enter very turbulent period of history, where the fight for resources will literally turn into a 'fight', since disease won't (yet). Time and time again, you see this in human history. Culling of population by 25-50% wouldn't be out of norm. So before people get all pollyanna about peak oil and how they're not making new land.. until technology lets us get off this planet, we will always have these cycles where progress hits a brick wall and turns into conflict.
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#3 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 09:39 PM

Heard of "yawns"?

Young and Wealthy but Normal, or "Yawns"

SAN FRANCISCO — They drive hybrid cars, if they drive at all, shop at local stores, if they shop at all and pay off their credit cards every month, if they use them at all. They may have disposable income, but whatever they make, they live below their means, in a conscious effort to tread lightly on the earth.

They are a new breed of Gen Xers and Ys, Young and Wealthy but Normal, or Yawns.

The acronym comes from The Sunday Telegraph of London, which noted that an increasing number of rich young Britons are socially aware, concerned about the environment and given less to consuming than to giving money to charity.

Yawns sound dull, but they are the new movers and shakers, their dreams big and bold. They are men and women in their 20s, 30s and 40s who want nothing less than to change the world and save the planet.


The upshot, he said, is that "A cultural and demographic 'perfect storm' may well push us decisively toward an extreme form of postmaterialism in the upcoming period."


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If they grow at 7% per year...

#4 Venatici

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 07:08 AM

That is what the video is all about. If only you have listen beyond the first part.

I know people use this type of logic to explain population growth and resource use.

But nature tells you that this can't be.

Just do the calculation for a colony of ants and you will soon find out that we should be over our head in ant mass by now.

THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN IN NATURE.

Why? Pretty simple. Resource limitation caps growth.

For humans, technology has expanded it, but more than likely, war+disease will cap it again. This is why I think we are about to enter very turbulent period of history, where the fight for resources will literally turn into a 'fight', since disease won't (yet).

Time and time again, you see this in human history. Culling of population by 25-50% wouldn't be out of norm.

So before people get all pollyanna about peak oil and how they're not making new land.. until technology lets us get off this planet, we will always have these cycles where progress hits a brick wall and turns into conflict.



#5 dcengr

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Posted 06 May 2008 - 01:58 PM

Ah ok.. I only saw the first part. I'm an engineer, not a scientist. I know too well physical limitations and ability of our minds to "predict" nature.
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