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#1 A-ha

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 08:55 PM

market is entering in a stage where there will be no news effect anymore...

For example Dow will drop 1000 in a day, Fed will say "I can cut the rates now", Market will not give a f$%^& , it will drop 1000 more immediately. If they cut, we know that they can cut only once forever, market will converge to zero faster. Whatever they do they say it will bring more selling.

for example CPI will come better than expected, market will not believe because we already new it doesnt reflect the real numbers anyway. Since there are no more shorts, who is gonna buy the news, sell more... sel sel sell


For example new home sales will be out, numbers will be great but we know that those houses are given almost free anyway, so it is bad for the real estate and home builder companies. Sell!




if they ban the short selling before the open, buy index puts, or any put, use a dart board it should be just fine. do it before they ban the put buying too.

Market will not trade CPI PPI employment, rate cuts from now on.... good news will mean sell, bad news will mean buy puts and leave for a long vacation. S&P will look like GS or MS or LEH or BSC or banking index chart eventually anyway.... I know it, they know it. We all know these investment banks built american capitalism this century, they are destroying it together. Captain abandoned the ship long ago, it is you left aboard, now they want you to take off your life jackets and work to save the ship. Patch the holes



Take a look at the picture below, do you understand what I mean?

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Edited by A-ha, 18 September 2008 - 09:02 PM.


#2 jdjimenez

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:07 PM

Well you've been spot on so far so best of luck! Futures are screaming right now and Gold is tanking! Wouldn't bet against the hot hand though. JDJ

#3 Rogerdodger

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:10 PM

A-ha, you're a great actor and a better trader.
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#4 mcleert

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:24 PM

market is entering in a stage where there will be no news effect anymore...

For example Dow will drop 1000 in a day, Fed will say "I can cut the rates now", Market will not give a f$%^& , it will drop 1000 more immediately. If they cut, we know that they can cut only once forever, market will converge to zero faster. Whatever they do they say it will bring more selling.

for example CPI will come better than expected, market will not believe because we already new it doesnt reflect the real numbers anyway. Since there are no more shorts, who is gonna buy the news, sell more... sel sel sell


For example new home sales will be out, numbers will be great but we know that those houses are given almost free anyway, so it is bad for the real estate and home builder companies. Sell!




if they ban the short selling before the open, buy index puts, or any put, use a dart board it should be just fine. do it before they ban the put buying too.

Market will not trade CPI PPI employment, rate cuts from now on.... good news will mean sell, bad news will mean buy puts and leave for a long vacation. S&P will look like GS or MS or LEH or BSC or banking index chart eventually anyway.... I know it, they know it. We all know these investment banks built american capitalism this century, they are destroying it together. Captain abandoned the ship long ago, it is you left aboard, now they want you to take off your life jackets and work to save the ship. Patch the holes



Take a look at the picture below, do you understand what I mean?

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looks like they all are "waiting for bets please"
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#5 jdjimenez

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:29 PM

Take a look at the picture below, do you understand what I mean?

Posted Image[/quote] looks like they all are "waiting for bets please"
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Benny boy gets my vote for the Poker player in that group, "All In Gentlemen".

#6 A-ha

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:31 PM

I am out of the market below 1150, all in cash..... they want me to be a bull. No they force me to be a bull now. NEVER!!! NEVER under the current circumstances. I rather to invest in Congo than going long S&P. I was thinking about what to do from here. I think I will have to learn to trade options if I stay. That is the only way left to place a bearish bet. for hot money, bearish bets on US were the most lucrative moves in the last year or so. IF they ban this here, I think this money moves out of the states, most likely to China That is what I am thinking about.

Edited by A-ha, 18 September 2008 - 09:33 PM.


#7 vitaminm

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:36 PM

kbe

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=kbe

Oct 08 KBEVI.X 5.50 0.00 1.20 5.30 15 86



Holdings
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hl?s=KBE

Edited by vitaminm, 18 September 2008 - 09:43 PM.

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#8 BigBadBear

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:45 PM

AHA: are u shorting the open as you suggested earlier or only shorting below 1150 ?

#9 A-ha

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:45 PM

I think I know why this rumor came out after hours.... IT will be more clear tomorrow.

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Posted 18 September 2008 - 09:57 PM

It's a crooked casino... This is more than rigged... The best proof I have is the timing... Just had to happen nite before OPEX... Ya, Right.

Edited by SemiBizz, 18 September 2008 - 09:58 PM.

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