Jump to content



Photo

Anti Short Rule Text


  • Please log in to reply
3 replies to this topic

#1 OEXCHAOS

OEXCHAOS

    Mark S. Young

  • Admin
  • 22,595 posts

Posted 19 September 2008 - 07:47 AM

Here's a link to the actual text of the rule.

http://www.sec.gov/r...08/34-58592.pdf

I had to laugh:

From the SEC "...the Commission has concluded that there continues to exist the potential of sudden and excessive fluctuations of securities prices generally and disruption in the functioning of the securities markets that could threaten fair and orderly markets."

It's certainly orderly to artificially drive the S&P futures up 120 points from lunchtime yesterday to 7:30 this morning.

I was certainly open to a rally due to the sentiment, but c'mon!

Thank goodness I didn't have any short mutual funds. Yikes. Imagine a position in Tempest. You're stuck.

Mark S Young
Wall Street Sentiment
Get a free trial here:

https://book.stripe....1aut29V5edgrS03
You can now follow me on X


#2 redfoliage2

redfoliage2

    Member

  • Traders-Talk User
  • 19,898 posts

Posted 19 September 2008 - 08:09 AM

Here's a link to the actual text of the rule.

http://www.sec.gov/r...08/34-58592.pdf

I had to laugh:

From the SEC "...the Commission has concluded that there continues to exist the potential of sudden and excessive fluctuations of securities prices generally and disruption in the functioning of the securities markets that could threaten fair and orderly markets."

It's certainly orderly to artificially drive the S&P futures up 120 points from lunchtime yesterday to 7:30 this morning.

I was certainly open to a rally due to the sentiment, but c'mon!

Thank goodness I didn't have any short mutual funds. Yikes. Imagine a position in Tempest. You're stuck.


I got a call about lunch time yesterday :D
http://www.traders-t...showtopic=94013

#3 Mtrader

Mtrader

    Member

  • Traders-Talk User
  • 1,221 posts

Posted 19 September 2008 - 08:33 AM

Only fair if you are a rich guy and lost big money. Gov't is supposed to help them not the poor.
You are on your own. This is for demonstration only.
JV

#4 milbank

milbank

    Member

  • TT Patron+
  • 4,714 posts

Posted 19 September 2008 - 08:36 AM

This emergency action should prevent short selling from being used to drive down the share prices of issuers even where there is no fundamental basis for a price decline other than general market conditions.


And who the hell are they to determine that and, for the sake of argument...and it's a hard argument to make...what does banning all short selling have to do with rectifying this supposed sin?

My anger and fear for all matter of collateral damage this will cause is still white hot. I'm just glad I didn't leave any positions hanging or take any short positions at the end of the day. That kind of turnaround rise in the markets the day before OPEX had me thinking some scummy government game was afoot.

Edited by milbank, 19 September 2008 - 08:39 AM.

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it."
--George Bernard Shaw


"None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe