Jump to content



Photo

some thoughts on theory... for elliot practitioners


  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 TheArchitect

TheArchitect

    Member

  • TT Member+
  • 1,659 posts

Posted 01 November 2008 - 09:44 PM

1. IF... say SPX lost 50% in 1 day... would the 2X leveraged fund SSO go to zero?

2. A caveat of Elliot's wave structure (5 up 3 down) is that the market can't go to zero, correct? (a teaparty post reminded me of this)

3. IF... say SPX gained 50% in 1 day... would the 2X inverse leveraged fund SDS go to zero?

my undergrad degree was actually in physics (not architecture), so i was formed around Einstein's thought experiments... hence the origin of the post. This is a serious question... so please do reply. thanks in advance. -TA

#2 marco

marco

    Member

  • Traders-Talk User
  • 191 posts

Posted 02 November 2008 - 01:09 AM

I've never seen a stock go to zero. They usually go to some fraction, like 0.1 or 00.1, i.e., they become penny stocks. I wonder if ewave would work if SPX became a penny stock.

#3 humble1

humble1

    Member

  • Traders-Talk User
  • 5,959 posts

Posted 02 November 2008 - 03:32 AM

easy to see if you look at the prospectus and positions. that has absolutely nothing at all to do with elliott wave structure, that i can see.

#4 Jnavin

Jnavin

    Member

  • TT Member*
  • 2,126 posts

Posted 02 November 2008 - 01:22 PM

Yes, the 2x ETF could go to zero. That's why it's crucial to base e-wave analysis ONLY on the underlying index, in this case, SPX. This does not conflict with the basics of e-wave theory since the originators insisted that the counts only be applied to widely-traded, massive volume indices and markets and discouraged other applications, such as to individual stocks. I'm sure they would have discouraged applying it to 2x ETF's had those vehicles been available back in the day.

#5 TheArchitect

TheArchitect

    Member

  • TT Member+
  • 1,659 posts

Posted 02 November 2008 - 01:36 PM

since the originators insisted that the counts only be applied to widely-traded, massive volume indices and markets and discouraged other applications, such as to individual stocks.


that answers my question... thanks john.