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[Rogerdodger]

For example:

Disaster plans leave disabled behind...
America's most vulnerable citizens are barely considered in most emergency plans, according to a report being issued Wednesday by the National Council on Disability.

[calmcookie]

Yes, there's a HUGE amount of waste and Roger you've only listed a fraction of what REALLY happens (in your previous post). So much is done that is meaningless, idiotic and even dangerous. It's of no value to anyone except the players in the conventional health "care" system (doesn't help patients one iota ... and in many cases, does harm). C.C.

Edited by calmcookie, 13 August 2009 - 11:01 AM.

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NEW MEDICAL LOGO

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Breaking: Finance Committee drops “death panel” provisions from Senate bill

I’m surprised it took them this long. If it had been Palin and the right tossing rhetorical grenades, they might have gone to the mat to keep it in there, but as the ‘Cuda herself noted in her response to Obama last night, it ain’t just conservatives who are freaked out by these provisions. Eugene Robinson and Charles Lane at WaPo also concluded that having “outside” input into end-of-life decisions when the government’s desperate to cut costs could lead to abuse; Mickey Kaus and Camille Paglia have hammered The One about it too


http://hotair.com/ar...om-senate-bill/


Surprise: Free health care in L.A. leads to long lines


INGLEWOOD, Calif. — Though he'd waited since 3:25 a.m. to see a dentist, a smile graced the face of Arturo Castaneda on Tuesday afternoon as he leaned against his blind man's cane and waited for someone to pull his bothersome tooth.

Like hundreds of others who showed up in the pre-dawn hours for free health care at The Forum in Inglewood, the 50-year-old man was relieved that he would receive the care he needed. Eventually.


http://www.google.co...1eKQIAD9A10U300

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Senator Specter shocked, shocked to find individual mandate in ObamaCare

“In a free society, if people absolutely insist on not being covered, that’s ultimately going to be their choice.”

Had Specter done his job, he would already know about Section 401 of the House version of ObamaCare. King Banaian read it over a week ago and highlighted this particular portion in order to make clear that the bill does indeed impose individual mandates and assigns penalties for non-compliance:

Why doesn’t Specter know about this part of ObamaCare? Shouldn’t he have educated himself on the particulars of the “reform” before attempting to defend it in town-hall meetings? More critically, would Specter commit to opposing a bill that explicitly rejects his stated standard? If not, why not?

http://hotair.com/ar...e-in-obamacare/

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The Health Care Reform Debacle

Let's face the harsh reality -- Obama has blown health care reform, big time. The opportunity of a lifetime has been squandered. The most recent revelations about backroom deals with Pharma and the other vendors of medical services drops the curtain on any hope of serious change in our costly and inefficient non-system.

A quick review of what has survived an unbecoming process of deal making exposes the dismaying reality. For starters: no public plan; no wealth tax to help pay for cost incurred; no right for the government to bargain with Pharma on drug prices; no meaningful enforcement mechanisms to ensure that vested, for profit interests comply with whatever undertakings, explicit or tacit, that they have made. What do we gain? Not much. A commitment that everyone must be insured, yet with a much weakened employer mandate to accomplish it. An elimination of the most egregious practices of insurance companies re. e.g. pre-existing conditions, arbitrary termination of coverage. Some small subsidies for the working poor.

http://www.huffingto...e_b_258893.html

Dakota Senator Says He Won't Vote For Public Option

http://www.huffingto...-_n_260080.html

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Making it up as he goes along

The American College of Surgeons is deeply disturbed over the uninformed public comments President Obama continues to make about the high-quality care provided by surgeons in the United States. When the President makes statements that are incorrect or not based in fact, we think he does a disservice to the American people at a time when they want clear, understandable facts about health care reform. We want to set the record straight.

Yesterday during a town hall meeting, President Obama got his facts completely wrong. He stated that a surgeon gets paid $50,000 for a leg amputation when, in fact, Medicare pays a surgeon between $740 and $1,140 for a leg amputation. This payment also includes the evaluation of the patient on the day of the operation plus patient follow-up care that is provided for 90 days after the operation. Private insurers pay some variation of the Medicare reimbursement for this service.

Three weeks ago, the President suggested that a surgeon's decision to remove a child's tonsils is based on the desire to make a lot of money. That remark was ill-informed and dangerous, and we were dismayed by this characterization of the work surgeons do. Surgeons make decisions about recommending operations based on what's right for the patient.


http://www.powerline...9/08/024266.php

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Illegal Health Reform

President Obama has called for a serious and reasoned debate about his plans to overhaul the health-care system. Any such debate must include the question of whether it is constitutional for the federal government to adopt and implement the president's proposals. Consider one element known as the "individual mandate," which would require every American to have health insurance, if not through an employer then by individual purchase. This requirement would particularly affect young adults, who often choose to save the expense and go without coverage. Without the young to subsidize the old, a comprehensive national health system will not work. But can Congress require every American to buy health insurance?

In short, no. The Constitution assigns only limited, enumerated powers to Congress and none, including the power to regulate interstate commerce or to impose taxes, would support a federal mandate requiring anyone who is otherwise without health insurance to buy it.

http://www.washingto...opinion/columns

[diogenes227]

Oh, no, this could happen here!

Another atrocity of British healthcare

[OEXCHAOS]

Is Medicare running a surplus or a deficit? Since it's objectively bankrupt, why would we give the same people who can't break even with a mail monopoly a de-facto monopoly over our health care. Can you give me ONE instance where government served you better than a private business could? They simply CAN'T. I'm not saying that I've not gotten some great service from governmental employees, but it's usually in the face of something that government shouldn't be doing in the first place, or as a result of their PERSONAL efforts on my behalf. I don't want government around anything that matters in my life. There's no evidence that they won't screw it up royally.