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[Rogerdodger]

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.
I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037...
First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid...
...you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home.

If this guy's story is accurate, (and I have heard similar stories) then this is simply the largest transfer of wealth in history.
Those without income and property will get vouchers to pay with while working middle class will be devastated.

The soft tyranny of creeping socialism becomes all-out fascism right before our very eyes, ruled by the jackbooted thugs of the IRS.

IRS AUDITED CARSON AFTER PRAYER B'FAST SPEECH
Asked whether he thought the audit was a retaliation for his speech, Dr. Carson quipped: “I guess I’m surprised it took them that long.”

Dr. Benjamin Carson's Amazing Speech at the National Prayer Breakfast

Edited by Rogerdodger, 03 October 2013 - 09:24 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

"It's good to be King!"
Huge taxpayer subsidy needed as Congress, staff buy 'GOLD' Obamacare plans...
Regulations issued by the Obama administration this week would require members of Congress to buy one of the top-tier insurance plans from the ObamaCare exchanges.
"We all … have to go and get the gold policy. Not the bronze, not the silver, the gold policy from the exchange. That's the only one we can get," he said.
"You see, bronze and silver's only good enough for everyone else in the country. For members of Congress and members of the Senate and their staff, it's gold or nothing."
"That's why this fight has been for a clean CR. No one wants to remove that exemption," he said.

Our 6 figure government employees will receive huge subsidies that "we the people" will pay for but can't afford for ourselves.


This was just an accident as a government Dufass sent an unencrypted list to the wrong place:
Exchange Sends List Of 2,400 Social Security Numbers To Broker...
Minnesota insurance broker Jim Koester was looking for information about assisting with Obamacare implementation; instead, what landed in his inbox last month was a document filled with the names, Social Security numbers and other pieces of personal information belonging to his fellow Minnesotans.

In one of the first breaches of the new Obamacare online marketplaces, an employee of the Minnesota marketplace, called MNsure, accidentally emailed Koester a document containing personally identifying information for more than 2,400 insurance agents, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported. MNsure was able to quickly undo the damage because Koester cooperated with them, but the incident left him unnerved.

"The more I thought about it, the more troubled I was," Koester told the newspaper. "What if this had fallen into the wrong hands? It's scary. If this is happening now, how can clients of MNsure be confident their data is safe?"

Edited by Rogerdodger, 04 October 2013 - 09:03 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

Lew Stonewalls When Asked How Many Have Signed Up...

"I'm going to ask you one last time," said Wallace, "because, forgive me sir, you haven't answered it:
Do you not know how many people signed up, which would seem to indicate another major software glitch, or is it that the numbers are embarrassingly small?"

"Chris, our metric for this week was, could people get online, get the information they need to make an informed," said Lew, sidestepping the straightforward question. "They have been getting that information. We are confident that they are going to make the decision -- they have 6 months to make the decision."

Wallace tried again: "So do you not know or is that the number is --"

"Well, it's obviously not my primary area of responsibility," said the treasury secretary.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 06 October 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[*JB*]

“I actually made it through this morning at 8:00 A.M. I have a preexisting condition (Type 1 Diabetes) and my income base was 45K-55K annually I chose tier 2 “Silver Plan” and my monthly premiums came out to $597.00 with $13,988 yearly deductible!!! There is NO POSSIBLE way that I can afford this so I “opt-out” and chose to continue along with no insurance.
I received an email tonight at 5:00 P.M. informing me that my fine would be $4,037...
First, your drivers license will be suspended until paid...
...you will have a federal tax lien placed on your home.

If this guy's story is accurate, (and I have heard similar stories) then this is simply the largest transfer of wealth in history.
Those without income and property will get vouchers to pay with while working middle class will be devastated.

Those deductables are NOT "affordable" -- look at this guy who bought insurance ahead and is getting killed becasue of what is now a pre-existing condition that he paid to have covered before he contracted Leukemia.

Pre-existing condition coverage -- BULL!!

From ABC News --

Michael Cerpok, is a high school drop-out, one of six kids born to a school teacher, and doesn’t come from a wealthy family. He has run two businesses for more than 25 years and says he may have to do more to literally stay alive.
“I've worked hard because I've had to, and I’ve had to, because cancer runs in my family," says Cerpok, who picked his current health insurance based on that family history. His monthly premium is just about half of his monthly take-home pay.


Back in 2006, he found out he had an incurable form of leukemia that requires ongoing treatment until he dies.

In 2012, his treatment bill was more than $350,000. But because of his insurance, his out-of-pocket was only $4,500.

That’s about to change because Michael just got a letter from his insurance carrier saying as of January 1, he would be dropped from coverage because of new regulations under Obamacare. His doctor at the Mayo Clinic may be gone as well.
"Now it doesn't mean I can't go see my current doctor, but my $4,500 out-of-pocket, is going to turn into a minimum of $26,000 out-of-pocket to see the doctor that I’ve been seeing the last seven years," he said.

[AChartist]

I was off today and saw first hand, 5 cartoon networks are repeating the same madison avenue prepared soundbites verbatim, read straight off the fax not even trying to hide it. Same they did for Bushies. Case close point proven, no matter what actor bildebergs put in the house of rothchild, the same government always wins, closing the loop by proving that every network works for the one government. They count the freaking electronic votes in Spain. I figure I've got one maybe two years to front the cannibals out of here. Just yesterday I had one of my leftist wacko sisters reply to me that everything is defense spending problem so I sent the historical chart website of spending by sector, defense was the only thing not exploding, I don't know if 1T nsa datacenter waste was in the defense or not, if so, offsetting 1T nsa fraud, defense spending is collapsing. Now you might wonder, why is traditional defense collapsing, and legitimate military with an oath, just happens to always be kept offshore. That the kind of things that come obvious to me, I just see and observe them. Most likely she did not look at it, they would be afraid of any real data to threaten their myths. They thought they had their communist utopia in sight but most importantly thought they had their power over dialectic nemisis republicans, and they don't know it's all a cartoon theatre on tv, so they don't see the government of the 5 networks. Honestlly guys, this pig is done. But I guess the pig has always been like that just when I think the quickening is there it gets worse.

Edited by AChartist, 07 October 2013 - 11:02 AM.

[AChartist]

Depopulation. I really have to accelerate my get out of dodge schedule to about 1 year, when the corporation exemption expires. Unless there is a window and necessity to switch over to my wife's employer plan, in which case she would be enslaved in min wage, by my need for insurance, they got us slaves right were they want us. I will begin divesting of all property, which is two cars, get the 401k 100% neutral at Christmas because there is no possibility to accept risks in investing. Stopping 401k additions today. I pursposefully keep and want no other property because my ability to see this coming, there is just a matter of turning over all furniture to consignment to get out of the massacre. I already discourage my wife from buying anything that has to be disposed fairly soon so there is not an accumulation of waste. Now I am a little more observant and proactive that all others but others at work are talking about major self preservation lock down, so it's not just me and will filter out to the zombie sheeple population as they meet it face to face, it would take a family member to get depopulated because they have no capability to read or understand factual information, only emotional myth training on the cartoons. I think your looking at total collapse of economics, even #1 terrorist Greenspan said the whole of it, is just trust.