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#1 diogenes227

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 11:40 AM

OBAMACARE SIGNUPS STATE BY STATE

Some of the states that immediately jump out include Vermont, which signed up more than 6% of its population — more than a full percentage point above the next most-effective state, Florida. Nationally, about 2.6% of Americans signed up for private health insurance made available by the Affordable Care Act between Oct. 1 and March 31, surpassing the law's original goals.

But overall, the final results present a stark contrast from December, when HealthCare.gov was floundering and state-based exchanges dominated in signing up people for insurance. The federal exchange, which serves 36 states, did its part to make up for a lackluster start. Sign-ups more than doubled in the last month of enrollment — from about 2.6 million on March 1 to 5.4 million by the end of enrollment. State-run exchanges also saw a significant increase — from 1.6 million to 2.6 million — but it wasn't nearly as astronomical.

Interestingly, much of the uptick in enrollment came from red-leaning and/or other swing states. Enrollment in Florida, for example, jumped from about 442,000 through the first five months to about 555,600 by its end. More than 55,000 Louisiana residents enrolled in the final month. Texas exploded from 295,000 through February to 733,757 by the end of the period. And in South Dakota and Alaska, respectively, enrollment doubled in the final month.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 12:28 PM

OBAMACARE SIGNUPS STATE BY STATE

Some of the states that immediately jump out include Vermont, which signed up more than 6% of its population — more than a full percentage point above the next most-effective state, Florida. Nationally, about 2.6% of Americans signed up for private health insurance made available by the Affordable Care Act between Oct. 1 and March 31, surpassing the law's original goals.

But overall, the final results present a stark contrast from December, when HealthCare.gov was floundering and state-based exchanges dominated in signing up people for insurance. The federal exchange, which serves 36 states, did its part to make up for a lackluster start. Sign-ups more than doubled in the last month of enrollment — from about 2.6 million on March 1 to 5.4 million by the end of enrollment. State-run exchanges also saw a significant increase — from 1.6 million to 2.6 million — but it wasn't nearly as astronomical.

Interestingly, much of the uptick in enrollment came from red-leaning and/or other swing states. Enrollment in Florida, for example, jumped from about 442,000 through the first five months to about 555,600 by its end. More than 55,000 Louisiana residents enrolled in the final month. Texas exploded from 295,000 through February to 733,757 by the end of the period. And in South Dakota and Alaska, respectively, enrollment doubled in the final month.


Interesting, now can you explain something for me? What exactly are we to derive from this? Republicans actually LIKE Obamacare or... Are folks signing up because they lost their previous insurance and have no other options? or because they are NOW able to afford insurance for the first time? Are they saving money vs their previous insurance or is it now costing more?

How is Obamacare NOT like the broken window theory? I appreciate any light you or anyone else can shed for me.

Edited by uburack, 03 May 2014 - 12:28 PM.

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#3 Dex

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 01:32 PM

There is more we don't know about those who signed up then we do. How many were dropped from company plans - co pays penalty How many had hours cut to below 30 - so ins doesn't have to be paid How many had previous ins canceled because of Obamacare mandates. The question I haven't seen answered is how many were uninsured before OC and how many now. The big shock for most people will be when they need the insurance - the deductable 6300 & 4000 needs to be paid 100% before ins kicks in.
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#4 colion

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 03:50 PM

The big shock for most people will be when they need the insurance - the deductable 6300 & 4000 needs to be paid 100% before ins kicks in.



I have read that the average increase in premium across the nation is about 39% and probably something similar in 2015 with some states going up by 100% (now that's bending the cost curve). How many will choose to opt out and not pay the penalty/tax - given that the IRS can only collect by withholding from a tax refund (plan not to have a refund) - which means that somehow the subsidies will have to be passed on to the rest of us. Between a high deductible, higher premium, reduced access to physicians and hospitals, etc. it is hard to see how this can survive in its current form. Has a 'major' unpopular law ever survived for long through say 1 or 2 election cycles?

Edited by colion, 03 May 2014 - 03:50 PM.


#5 Rogerdodger

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:09 PM

I have Obummercare.
They just sent an email saying that they had to reset everyone's password because of Heartbleed and I need to select "Forgot password".
I did and now I'm locked out of my account. :lol:

The BCBS insurance agent warned us to triple check everything, because everybody is so confused now, from the agent himself to the doctors to the hospitals.
My wife called one specialist on the list of doctors who accept our plan and who are accepting new patients.
Just like the recent news from California, he NEVER agreed to accept Obummercare and is NOT accepting new patients.
The BCBS insurance agent reported that one lady, new to Obamacare, just went to her regular hospital for surgery, but now she owes over $25,000 because it was not on her plan.

"You can keep yur doctur. You can keep yur hospital, You will save $2,500 a year."
(I had my fingers crossed suckers!) <_<

PS: I have a rental property that I have been rehabbing since last year.
If I rent it out now, the increase in income will disqualify my welfare subsidy.
(Unless I go all cash...like many will be doing now.)
So I'll just let it sit empty for now.
You gotta love socialist economic stimulus ideas.
They worked so well in Detroit, Cuba, Venezuela and East Germany.
Everybody is equal now, except the politicians and their bed fellows, who are more equal.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 03 May 2014 - 06:24 PM.


#6 Dex

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 06:49 PM

Imagine if this was a Republican president. The news would be filled with horror stories. I am really astounded at the cost of the coverage and how little insurance you get. It is as if the law was written by and for the insurance industry. Paying 100% of the deductible first is a killer. Now imagine if your health problem spanned 2 years. Pay 2 deductibles 12,000? 8,000? plus the ins. - another 6,000 or more for a single person!
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#7 Lee48

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:25 PM

I luv Obamacare! This is the first yr in 14 that I've had medical coverage, since I was downsized back in 2000. Never did care to work or slave again. I had to spend the last 14 yrs taking care of my own health by eating healthy and exercising. But now thanks to Obamacare I can go back to eating burgers and fries like the rest of the US....lol just kidding about that. Unlike states like TX and OK, my state has expanded medicaid so all I have to do is keep my taxable income below 15K per yr for free coverage!! That's easy to do by just trading my IRA acc and letting my taxable acc mostly sit to control income. Plus thanks to the FED I get no interest in that acc. And to make things even sweeter, thanks to Obama I can also get fre VA medical coverage for military members that were stationed at Camp Lejeune NC during the 1970's. It turns out the base and family housing had contaminated/poison drinking water. So with my plan Obamacare is working out perfect for me. I now have 2 free medical coverage.... :P And please don't try to make me feel bad about sucking up benefits. Corporate America does it all the time to evade paying taxes. They pay millions to lobbyists to make sure they don't pay any taxes and game the system... So I'm playing the same game while the music is still playing.... :lol:

#8 Rogerdodger

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:33 PM

So I'm playing the same game while the music is still playing....


You're darn right! I'm tired of paying my own way. Work is hard. And unnecessary.
Besides, Unemployment checks boost the economy, according to the previous Speaker of the House.

That's easy to do by just trading my IRA acc


I've got all mine in a Roth. Little paperwork, No taxes.
And (this year at least) any profits don't affect my adjusted gross income (which would wreck my Obamacare welfare "Tax Credits").

Milk it baby. Milk it!

Where's my Obamaphone?

#9 Lee48

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:46 PM

So I'm playing the same game while the music is still playing....


You're darn right! I'm tired of paying my own way. Work is hard. And unnecessary.
Besides, Unemployment checks boost the economy, according to the previous Speaker of the House.

That's easy to do by just trading my IRA acc


I've got all mine in a Roth. Little paperwork, No taxes.
And (this year at least) any profits don't affect my adjusted gross income (which would wreck my Obamacare welfare "Tax Credits").

Milk it baby. Milk it!

Where's my Obamaphone?

I can't believe you're gaming the system with a Roth IRA. Good move, I haven't done that. In any case, I live lightly with the house and cars paid off so those taxes won't mean much. It will
only benefit relatives in case I die too soon to spend it all.
And thanks for reminding me about my Obamaphone. I should check into that..... ;)

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Posted 04 May 2014 - 06:43 AM

What was "The Long March"?

The Long March (October 1933-October 1935) was a military retreat undertaken by the Red Army of the Communist Party of China, the forerunner of the People's Liberation Army, to evade the pursuit of the Kuomintang (KMT or Chinese Nationalist Party) army.



http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Long_March
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