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#11 robo

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:32 AM

added one VXX LONG, 3 QQQ Puts, and daytraded NQ (mainly long)  yesterday

 

Many are complaining of thin volume and the "chaos trades" emanating from PA (Political Analysis) and not TA or FA.

 

Senators ask SEC, FBI to probe Trump 'chaos trades'

https://www.marketwa...ades-2019-10-21

I'm a Trump hater, but some of his tweets do cause chaos in the markets......

 

Day 6 for my IWM buy signal...... As a trend trader I really don't care what the news cycle is doing, but I do hate Trump......  The trend remains up....

 

https://stockcharts....271&a=694509390


Edited by robo, 22 October 2019 - 08:34 AM.

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#12 robo

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:39 AM

Cramer bearish? Next, da Chief will be bearish!

 

 

Jim Cramer warns that this bearish scenario in the S&P 500 is ‘on the table’

https://www.cnbc.com...-the-table.html

LOL..... I try not to read any of the Da-Cheif's  posts.  The data has no bearing and is useless to my trend trading system..... Trend traders don't care about anything other the direction of the trend.....  LOL..... which is currently up for the indexes I trade.....  

 

Good Trading!

 

 

 
 
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So there's no volume in this market... it's all sleight of hand twittery and trickery... Overnight futures jams, Monster Gaps Up, Crushing $VIX, all enabled by light volume trading... it is an ILLUSION, but it will lasts until VOLUME shows up to shut this sh*tshow down.
 
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$VIX Crushas In da haus pre market... $UVXY all time lows pre-market...
 
 
 
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So there's no volume in this market... it's all sleight of hand twittery and trickery... Overnight futures jams, Monster Gaps Up, Crushing $VIX, all enabled by light volume trading... it is an ILLUSION, but it will lasts until VOLUME shows up to shut this sh*tshow down.
 
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$VIX Crushas In da haus pre market... $UVXY all time lows pre-market...

Edited by robo, 22 October 2019 - 08:48 AM.

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#13 12SPX

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:47 AM

Always the best way once your profit stop is in place!!yes.gif



#14 robo

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:53 AM

Always the best way once your profit stop is in place!!yes.gif

I tried many other systems, but they are all based on making guesses about what the market will do next. Now I just trade what is happening, and not what I think will happen. I hate this market, but my system is on a buy signal for now....

 

Good Trading!

 

Some comments about Trend Trading......

https://www.fibtimer...ommentaries.asp

 

Fear & Market Timing Paralysis

The fact is, all traders, investors, and yes market timers, feel fear at times, at some level.

What is important is how we address it. Knowing the definition and reasons for fear can actually help market timers to overcome it.

Traders "Believe" They Know The Future

In the book "Trading in the Zone" by Mark Douglas, he describes how most traders "...believe that they know what is going to happen next."

This can cause market timers to put too much importance on the "current" trade, and to lose focus on their performance over time.

But market timing is based on "probabilities" that make us successful over time. Too much focus on a single trade causes the fear levels to rise. As this occurs, market timers become hesitant and cautious, trying to avoid mistakes. The risks of choking under pressure (not making a trade) build.

All market timers, at times, feel fear. But successful market timers manage their fear, while losing market timers are controlled by it.
 

"The fear of loss can keep a market timer from executing a trade" When faced with a particularly stressful decision, it is a perfectly normal human response to revert to the "fight or flight" response. Either we do battle, or flee. When a market timer feels such an emotional response, his or her decisions are very likely to be adversely affected.

Fear of Loss

The fear of loss can keep a market timer from executing a trade. Or it can keep him from exiting a trade when the trading plan calls for it. Either can be costly.

 

 

No one likes to have losses, but even the very best timers do. The key is to realize that you are worrying about the results of "that" trade, and not concentrating on executing the plan, which over time will make you successful.

Trading plans, such as the ones we use here at FibTimer, take time. No single trade makes or breaks the plan. Once you understand and accept that, it is much easier to make the trades without the "fight or flight" response hampering your ability to act.

Fear of Missing Out on Profits

This fear is usually felt during runaway rallies. All your friends are talking about the incredible profits they are making every day. If you really look at this in the right perspective, it is a very dangerous kind of fear.

It eventually causes you to buy in, and of course, when you and thousands of others who feel the same way react at the same time, the market is finally at its top.

Having a trading plan, and sticking to the trading plan, eliminates this fear. You "know" your plan works, so you are not susceptible to the "greed" factor that comes so easily in market rallies.

Fear of Losing Profits

This fear arises when you have a profit, and start worrying about losing it. If you take your profits, you will feel like a winner! But you know this story. The market will likely continue in the same direction, leaving you with an entirely new set of fears.
 

"Fears cloud decisions. And decisions clouded by fear, that feel right at the time they are made, are more often than not... wrong."

Fears cloud decisions. And decisions clouded by fear, that feel right at the time they are made, are more often than not... wrong.

Again, back to the trading plan. You know what to expect, because you have a plan that "will" succeed over time. It "will" bring in those profits. So a commitment to the "plan" relieves you of the fears of missing out on that quick profit, and the decision that invariably turns bad.

Fear of Being Wrong

Consider these next two sentences;

1. The desire to be "right" is in direct opposition to the ability to be successful.

2. The desire to be "right" is in direct opposition to the ability to make money.

A market timer's desire to be right, to be able to tell his friends how successful he or she is, can become so powerful, that a he or she winds up second guessing, the "plan." Taking winners too quickly, or holding onto losers in the hopes that they will come back, or at least break even.
 

 

https://www.fibtimer...ommentaries.asp


Edited by robo, 22 October 2019 - 08:58 AM.

“There is only one side to the stock market; and it is not the bull side or the bear side, but the right side”   Jesse L. Livermore


#15 dTraderB

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:10 AM

a important battle between bulls and bears happening now

 

winner will get at least 10 S&P points

 

more battles to come today & rest of week before the BIG MOVE



#16 dTraderB

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:36 AM

pitched battle between bears & bulls for most of this morning's cash session

 

a bit too choppy for profitable daytrading

 

waiting for a good NQ entry - long or short



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Posted 22 October 2019 - 11:04 AM

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Oct 22 $VIX $VVIX $ATR (7) & %B(20,1.5) update Getting there The risk/reward is hugely skewed to the upside for the $VIX (downside for the $SPX) In order to gain another 3% on $SPX, risking -20 to 25% on the downside The R/R just does't add up for the bulls at current lvl

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:28 PM

A surreal market that can reach SPX 3150 soon but also drop to SPX 2700 in about the same time.

 

Here is "waste of time" #1:

 

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Kerberos007 Retweeted Reuters Top News

Haha.. "Waste of time and waste of energy." Exact my feeling. And millions of people around the world. Now, the U.S. $SPX is "waste of time" and "waste of energy". Boring ping-pong machines, ping pong back and forth collecting rebates.

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European Commission President Juncker voiced his frustration over time spent on #Brexit, calling it a ‘waste of time and waste of energy’ https://reut.rs/2P9pYSN 

10:06 AM - 22 Oct 2019 


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#19 dTraderB

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:29 PM

and "waste of time" #2
 

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Kerberos007 Retweeted ForexFlow

Phase 1 spills into phase 2 Phase 2 spills into phase 3 Phase X spills into phase X+1 Phase infinity spills into phase infinity +1 And on and on Phase infinity++ forever++. The mother of all kicking the cans. "waste of time" and "waste of energy" 1f447.png1f447.png1f447.png

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#US's Kudlow - Unfinished issues in Phase 1 of #China deal could spill into phase 2: What's the point of phase 1 then? $USD $CNH $CNY
10:23 AM - 22 Oct 2019


#20 robo

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 12:29 PM

A possible buy signal for FCG.......

 

 

https://stockcharts....286&a=694729127


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