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#1 Russ

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 11:33 AM

Martin Armstrong has also stated recently that the Dow will go to 40k and then 65k by 2032.95 after which time western civilization with "crash and burn".

 

"The world has changed dramatically in the course of this orchestrated and intended collapse of the global economy in order to launch this Great Reset. In the course of several months, we have watched a deliberate economic disaster under the pretense of this coronavirus pandemic. While the main objective of one group has been the create a New Green World Order, they relied upon Socialists who realize that their economic dreams are also collapsing. As a result, this combined force is out to change the world and the real agenda is the New Green Socialist Agenda. They have pretended that there has been this huge tragically large number of human lives being lost when more people die from car crashes. They have deliberately terrorized people to achieve their agenda.

They have embarrassed politicians and countries into implementing quarantines, social distancing, and have locked down the world population where NOTHING of such a magnitude has EVER taken place in 6,000 years of recorded history. These drastic practices to contain this exaggerated pandemic have unleashed a Sovereign Debt Crisis our computer has been forecasting but never in my personal imagination w3ould I have ever anticipated that this would be deliberate.

 

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The cost of this Great Lockdown is virtually beyond comprehension. We are witnessing people hoarding cash around the world. The magnitude and speed of collapse in economic activity that has followed is unlike anything experienced in our lifetimes. Yet the real trend starting to unfold is the collapse in public confidence. We are now even beginning to see runs on banks to hoard cash in China as well. Our sources in China are reporting that the People’s Bank of China initiated a strategic plan in the Hebei province which requires retail and business clients to pre-report any large withdrawals or deposits. They will expand this program in October to other provinces.

On a global scale, lenders around the world, including China, are facing a surge in bad debt as a direct result of this Great Lockdown. The world economy is facing a tsunami of bad debt that is bringing about an economic recession/depression into 2022. Even in China, the economic outlook is one of the slowest economic growth in four decades. In China, the government regulators were forced to step in last month to prevent bank runs at two local lenders in Hebei and Shanxi. Last year, China bailed out and even took over several struggling banks. In China, much of the loans were on real estate which has been forced to contract as social-distancing impacted the freedom of movement.

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Our warning of the pending Monetary Crisis Cycle and the simultaneous Sovereign Debt Crisis Cycle has created a world economic outlook that is just beyond ANYTHING we have witnessed in over 300 years. This is How Empires, Nations, and City-States die.   https://www.armstron...g-for-collapse/


Edited by Russ, 09 July 2020 - 11:37 AM.

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 12:02 PM

What I don't understand here is timing.

 

He's long  or short the market for the coming months?


 
 
 


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Posted 09 July 2020 - 12:06 PM

What I don't understand here is timing.

 

He's long  or short the market for the coming months?

right   lololll....some people just like to post his crappola



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Posted 09 July 2020 - 12:07 PM

What I don't understand here is timing.

 

He's long  or short the market for the coming months?

2032? It's 2022



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Posted 09 July 2020 - 12:54 PM

 

What I don't understand here is timing.

 

He's long  or short the market for the coming months?

right   lololll....some people just like to post his crappola

 

Was it crap that Armstrong's Pi cycle hit the peak for the NYSE to within one day on Jan. 17, 2020 and then saw the biggest crash in decades?  Is it crap that his pi cycle model is statistically proven into the billions to one odds with many of the pi cycle dates having hits on major markets to the day? Perhaps it is sour grapes because Don Wolanchuk did not discover this cycle.  Were all these hits on the cycle to the day crapola? I don't work for Mr. Armstrong and am not promoting my business on here like you are so have no motive in putting other analysts down.  Equity Magazine named Martin Armstrong 'America's Top Economist' in the late 1980's and since then his model has proven itself even more, take note that all these dates were carved in stone to the day back in the late 1970's when the cycle was discovered, with the most important dates being the main 8.6 cycle which is the extreme oscillations on the chart at the bottom... 

 

1981 saw a huge spike in inflation with Gold hitting US$850 per ounce was predicted by Armstrong in the 1970's, that time period was also the final wave of the last 51.6 year confidence in public sector cycle (FDR's New Deal Era) leading up to the new private wave that started in 1985.65 which will end in 2037.

1985.65 (.65 of the number of days in the year) - start of the current 51.6 year private cycle - was the major turn in the British Pound/Us dollar ratio.

1987 date was the low in the US stock markets crash to the day. The model predicted the crash of 1987 to the day during which time Martin Armstrong indicated that it was not the start of the next great depression as some said, but was just the first serious panic in the emerging new private wave and he was forecasting the Dow would go to 6000.

1989 cycle date was the high in the Japanese Nikkei and Martin Armstrong warned that it was going to go down 20,000 points within 10 months.

1994.25 showed the low in the SP500 to the day and the start of the dot.com mania of the 1990's.

1996 turn showed the high in the US markets at that point.

1998.55 was the high in the US stock markets to the day and led to a 20% panic sell-off and a crisis with a derivatives company which the government stepped in to save. Mr Armstrong predicted this would be a major event almost a decade before it happened! It was also the real peak in the markets as measured internally. His computer had forecast in the early 1990's that the Dow would hit 6,000 by 1996 and 10,000 by 1998, the computer model has lots more in it than just the pi cycle. Armstrong won the Hedge Fund Manager of the Year award after he shorted the SP Futures heavily on July 20.

1999.62 was the low in the Gold price after a 20 year bear market.2000.7 was the final high in the SP500 for the roaring 1990's bull market.

Sept.2000 saw the final high in the SP500 for the great 1990's bull market that Martin had forecast accurately a decade before. Martin predicted the markets would go sideways for 5 or 6 years after the 1990's bull market came to an end. 5-6 years later the Dow made new highs.

2002.85 was the end of the bear market in the US stock exchanges, as Martin had forecast. It was also a bigger cyclical trend for rising commodity markets which Martin had forecast long before. One other thing happened on that cycle of November 8, 2002, it was the day that the UN handed down its ultimatum to Iraq to comply with its demands, not long after President George W. Bush invaded Iraq on a false charge that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, refusing to let the UN do its job of inspections, even though the UN protested. Martin had forecast war would increase after this turning point. In general Armstrong thought that this part of the cycle led to increased war which was unfortunately, correct.

In an article he wrote in 1999 he warned that the USA would be attacked in either Sept. or Oct. of 2001 (probably based on the 224 yr. civilization cycle which is related to the Pi Cycle) and that this would then be followed by a war in response to the attack, it all came to pass unfortunately. Very strange.

2005 turn saw a low in the US dollar index with a sharp reversal to the upside.

2007.15 was projected by Armstrong to be a peak in commodity prices including Gold, however he said it could extend out into 2012. In general the model indicated that everything would inflate again after the 2002 low, with an emphasis on hard assets - commodities, real estate etc. but given that the Dow Jones 30 took the lead and made new highs into the 2007 cycle date while commodities and housing. (actually the Schiller Housing index peaked on the Feb. 2007 Pi Cycle date, as did the Nikkei and the Financial Indices and this led to the financial crisis of late 2008)

 

“As we approach the start of BIG BANG (2015.75), which is 26 years from the first crack in Marxism 1989 first observed in China followed by the fall of the Berlin Wall within months, ever since the world has been drastically altered economically. The collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 was part of this process. That was not a CIA plot, but the unraveling of the Marxist Era. We should witness dramatic political and economic changes going into 2020.05. The bottom of the ECM 2020.05 will also be 31.4 years from the start of the fall of Communism that should culminate in the final stages of the collapse of Socialism. This is part of the cause of BIG BANG that will become focused most intensely between 2015.75 and 2020.05.”

December 28, 2014

 

I think the collapse in the confidence of governments has been indeed the pronounced characteristic of this 4.3 year part of the wave. The European and Japanese Bond markets have been destroyed. Both governments are on life support. I think we have some very serious sovereign debt problems and we are looking at that on the state and municipal levels. Why would someone claim we have been wrong and misrepresent that there is no sovereign debt crisis? It certainly seems that they are spreading propaganda to help keep the banks and governments in play.

Socialism is making a major play to win the 2020 elections here in the States. We have an obvious coup unfolding against Trump carried out by the CIA, FBI, and NSA. This target is 31.4 years from the START of the fall of Communism. It is the START of this trend in Western Society NOT THE END!!!!!!! The 2020 election in the USA will be the most contentious since the 1960s and we should expect a rise in civil unrest. It will turn into a major political battle at the peak of the next wave – 2024.  https://www.armstron...tory-ignorance/

 

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Edited by Russ, 09 July 2020 - 01:01 PM.

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#6 Dex

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 01:01 PM

 

Martin Armstrong has also stated recently that the Dow will go to 40k and then 65k by 2032.95 after which time western civilization with "crash and burn".

 

"The world has changed dramatically in the course of this orchestrated and intended collapse of the global economy in order to launch this Great Reset. In the course of several months, we have watched a deliberate economic disaster under the pretense of this coronavirus pandemic. While the main objective of one group has been the create a New Green World Order, they relied upon Socialists who realize that their economic dreams are also collapsing. As a result, this combined force is out to change the world and the real agenda is the New Green Socialist Agenda. They have pretended that there has been this huge tragically large number of human lives being lost when more people die from car crashes. They have deliberately terrorized people to achieve their agenda.

They have embarrassed politicians and countries into implementing quarantines, social distancing, and have locked down the world population where NOTHING of such a magnitude has EVER taken place in 6,000 years of recorded history. These drastic practices to contain this exaggerated pandemic have unleashed a Sovereign Debt Crisis our computer has been forecasting but never in my personal imagination w3ould I have ever anticipated that this would be deliberate.

 

World-FOREX-Markets.jpg

 

The cost of this Great Lockdown is virtually beyond comprehension. We are witnessing people hoarding cash around the world. The magnitude and speed of collapse in economic activity that has followed is unlike anything experienced in our lifetimes. Yet the real trend starting to unfold is the collapse in public confidence. We are now even beginning to see runs on banks to hoard cash in China as well. Our sources in China are reporting that the People’s Bank of China initiated a strategic plan in the Hebei province which requires retail and business clients to pre-report any large withdrawals or deposits. They will expand this program in October to other provinces.

On a global scale, lenders around the world, including China, are facing a surge in bad debt as a direct result of this Great Lockdown. The world economy is facing a tsunami of bad debt that is bringing about an economic recession/depression into 2022. Even in China, the economic outlook is one of the slowest economic growth in four decades. In China, the government regulators were forced to step in last month to prevent bank runs at two local lenders in Hebei and Shanxi. Last year, China bailed out and even took over several struggling banks. In China, much of the loans were on real estate which has been forced to contract as social-distancing impacted the freedom of movement.

World-Economy-1.jpg

 

Our warning of the pending Monetary Crisis Cycle and the simultaneous Sovereign Debt Crisis Cycle has created a world economic outlook that is just beyond ANYTHING we have witnessed in over 300 years. This is How Empires, Nations, and City-States die.   https://www.armstron...g-for-collapse/

 

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#7 Russ

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 01:08 PM

What I don't understand here is timing.

 

He's long  or short the market for the coming months?

 

I don't subscribe to his services, so to find out that you need to do that, I think he is expecting an important turn in July though which he said in an internet interview. There is a guy on this board that subscribes to his work, I think he runs the best market trades site. 


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#8 Russ

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 01:09 PM

 

 

Martin Armstrong has also stated recently that the Dow will go to 40k and then 65k by 2032.95 after which time western civilization with "crash and burn".

 

"The world has changed dramatically in the course of this orchestrated and intended collapse of the global economy in order to launch this Great Reset. In the course of several months, we have watched a deliberate economic disaster under the pretense of this coronavirus pandemic. While the main objective of one group has been the create a New Green World Order, they relied upon Socialists who realize that their economic dreams are also collapsing. As a result, this combined force is out to change the world and the real agenda is the New Green Socialist Agenda. They have pretended that there has been this huge tragically large number of human lives being lost when more people die from car crashes. They have deliberately terrorized people to achieve their agenda.

They have embarrassed politicians and countries into implementing quarantines, social distancing, and have locked down the world population where NOTHING of such a magnitude has EVER taken place in 6,000 years of recorded history. These drastic practices to contain this exaggerated pandemic have unleashed a Sovereign Debt Crisis our computer has been forecasting but never in my personal imagination w3ould I have ever anticipated that this would be deliberate.

 

World-FOREX-Markets.jpg

 

The cost of this Great Lockdown is virtually beyond comprehension. We are witnessing people hoarding cash around the world. The magnitude and speed of collapse in economic activity that has followed is unlike anything experienced in our lifetimes. Yet the real trend starting to unfold is the collapse in public confidence. We are now even beginning to see runs on banks to hoard cash in China as well. Our sources in China are reporting that the People’s Bank of China initiated a strategic plan in the Hebei province which requires retail and business clients to pre-report any large withdrawals or deposits. They will expand this program in October to other provinces.

On a global scale, lenders around the world, including China, are facing a surge in bad debt as a direct result of this Great Lockdown. The world economy is facing a tsunami of bad debt that is bringing about an economic recession/depression into 2022. Even in China, the economic outlook is one of the slowest economic growth in four decades. In China, the government regulators were forced to step in last month to prevent bank runs at two local lenders in Hebei and Shanxi. Last year, China bailed out and even took over several struggling banks. In China, much of the loans were on real estate which has been forced to contract as social-distancing impacted the freedom of movement.

World-Economy-1.jpg

 

Our warning of the pending Monetary Crisis Cycle and the simultaneous Sovereign Debt Crisis Cycle has created a world economic outlook that is just beyond ANYTHING we have witnessed in over 300 years. This is How Empires, Nations, and City-States die.   https://www.armstron...g-for-collapse/

 

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2025 for what?


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"In order to master the markets, you must first master yourself" ... JP Morgan
"Most people lose money because they cannot admit they are wrong"... Martin Armstrong



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#9 Dex

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 01:17 PM

 

 

 

Martin Armstrong has also stated recently that the Dow will go to 40k and then 65k by 2032.95 after which time western civilization with "crash and burn".

 

"The world has changed dramatically in the course of this orchestrated and intended collapse of the global economy in order to launch this Great Reset. In the course of several months, we have watched a deliberate economic disaster under the pretense of this coronavirus pandemic. While the main objective of one group has been the create a New Green World Order, they relied upon Socialists who realize that their economic dreams are also collapsing. As a result, this combined force is out to change the world and the real agenda is the New Green Socialist Agenda. They have pretended that there has been this huge tragically large number of human lives being lost when more people die from car crashes. They have deliberately terrorized people to achieve their agenda.

They have embarrassed politicians and countries into implementing quarantines, social distancing, and have locked down the world population where NOTHING of such a magnitude has EVER taken place in 6,000 years of recorded history. These drastic practices to contain this exaggerated pandemic have unleashed a Sovereign Debt Crisis our computer has been forecasting but never in my personal imagination w3ould I have ever anticipated that this would be deliberate.

 

World-FOREX-Markets.jpg

 

The cost of this Great Lockdown is virtually beyond comprehension. We are witnessing people hoarding cash around the world. The magnitude and speed of collapse in economic activity that has followed is unlike anything experienced in our lifetimes. Yet the real trend starting to unfold is the collapse in public confidence. We are now even beginning to see runs on banks to hoard cash in China as well. Our sources in China are reporting that the People’s Bank of China initiated a strategic plan in the Hebei province which requires retail and business clients to pre-report any large withdrawals or deposits. They will expand this program in October to other provinces.

On a global scale, lenders around the world, including China, are facing a surge in bad debt as a direct result of this Great Lockdown. The world economy is facing a tsunami of bad debt that is bringing about an economic recession/depression into 2022. Even in China, the economic outlook is one of the slowest economic growth in four decades. In China, the government regulators were forced to step in last month to prevent bank runs at two local lenders in Hebei and Shanxi. Last year, China bailed out and even took over several struggling banks. In China, much of the loans were on real estate which has been forced to contract as social-distancing impacted the freedom of movement.

World-Economy-1.jpg

 

Our warning of the pending Monetary Crisis Cycle and the simultaneous Sovereign Debt Crisis Cycle has created a world economic outlook that is just beyond ANYTHING we have witnessed in over 300 years. This is How Empires, Nations, and City-States die.   https://www.armstron...g-for-collapse/

 

Rubbini says 2025

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2025 for what?

 

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#10 andr99

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Posted 09 July 2020 - 01:49 PM

Russ...........to me it's enough that we go on rising till December-January as I think the ongoing rise should last at least until then. What does Armstrong say ? What will happen until year end ?  


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