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#1 Rogerdodger

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Posted 14 July 2021 - 10:17 PM

Lumber erases all 2021 gains

 

Last winter, I bought some pork butt to smoke at $1.09 a pound.

This week I saw some at $3.85 a pound.

I couldn't even afford an estimate on Rib Eye Steaks!!!

My clients are selling their homes in 2 or three days for cash at elevated prices, often in bidding wars.

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But....Maybe some relief is coming?

 

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Lumber erases all 2021 gains deflation is the risk to watch, says Bloomberg Intelligence

At the time of writing, lumber for September delivery was down 6.1% on the day

Lumber's recent dramatic drop erased all the year-to-date gains.

The pandemic boost is unlikely to be sustained if timber prices and history are guides.

And it is not just lumber. Soybeans are also giving back their 2021 gains, and copper is on the decline as well.

Even Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell highlighted the temporary surge in commodities such as lumber as evidence that inflation will be "transitory." 

"The problem right now is that the demand is very strong, and incomes are high," Powell said in June. "If you look behind the headline numbers, you'll see that the incoming data are consistent with the view that prices that are driving that higher inflation is from categories that are being directly affected by the recovery from the pandemic and the reopening of the economy."

Powell drew parallels between the transitory inflation and the temporary surge in lumber prices.

"Over time, these things driving up inflation will be temporary … The experience with lumber prices is illustrative of this. Prices that have moved up really quickly because of the shortages and bottlenecks should stop going up. And in some cases should actually go down. And we did see that in the case of lumber," he said. "Our expectation is that these high inflation readings that we're seeing now will start to abate. And it'll be like the lumber experience."


Edited by Rogerdodger, 14 July 2021 - 10:51 PM.


#2 Russ

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Posted 15 July 2021 - 07:07 AM

Martin Armstrong has been saying for at least a year there will be a depression going into 2022 and also he has been saying for a few years there will be strong inflation going into 2024. Perhaps like the 'stagflation' of the late 1970's. There are commodity shortages happening because a shortage of crew to run the ships. https://www.armstron...is-is-shipping/


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#3 fib_1618

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Posted 15 July 2021 - 09:09 AM

 The experience with lumber prices is illustrative of this. Prices that have moved up really quickly because of the shortages and bottlenecks should stop going up. And in some cases should actually go down. And we did see that in the case of lumber," he said. "Our expectation is that these high inflation readings that we're seeing now will start to abate. And it'll be like the lumber experience."

 

And...once again why...all of this inflationary talk is actually politically motivated and produced.

 

Maybe someone should let the Bolshevik media know this as well! Who knows? Maybe they'll educate themselves and then might report it!

 

Experts in this business are also media manufactured...everyone is just as good as your last call and nothing more.

 

Meanwhile, technical analysis has been very consistent for the last 3 months in saying that the minimal downside target for the 10 year note was 1.25% when folks were absolutely certain that we would see 2% or higher when it was at 1.75% in late March..any further strength in the interest rate sensitive A/D lines, and the new downside target will be 1%.

 

Makes you wonder...why would interest rates and gold keep going lower if there was any sniff of economic inflation in the future?

 

That's right...they wouldn't be.

 

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#4 da_cheif

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Posted 15 July 2021 - 10:35 AM

 

 The experience with lumber prices is illustrative of this. Prices that have moved up really quickly because of the shortages and bottlenecks should stop going up. And in some cases should actually go down. And we did see that in the case of lumber," he said. "Our expectation is that these high inflation readings that we're seeing now will start to abate. And it'll be like the lumber experience."

 

And...once again why...all of this inflationary talk is actually politically motivated and produced.

 

Maybe someone should let the Bolshevik media know this as well! Who knows? Maybe they'll educate themselves and then might report it!

 

Experts in this business are also media manufactured...everyone is just as good as your last call and nothing more.

 

Meanwhile, technical analysis has been very consistent for the last 3 months in saying that the minimal downside target for the 10 year note was 1.25% when folks were absolutely certain that we would see 2% or higher when it was at 1.75% in late March..any further strength in the interest rate sensitive A/D lines, and the new downside target will be 1%.

 

Makes you wonder...why would interest rates and gold keep going lower if there was any sniff of economic inflation in the future?

 

That's right...they wouldn't be.

 

Don't you just love Keynesian economics? There's always a game being played somewhere! tongue.png

 

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inflationary talk is more meaningfull if it involves foresight via TA

.....this 11 years ago

 

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#5 Rogerdodger

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Posted 15 July 2021 - 02:09 PM

all of this inflationary talk is actually politically motivated and produced

 

 

I remember doing a 5-1 ARM re-fi on some rental property and hearing all of the warnings about the soon rising interest rates.

In those 5 years, rates increased one time and then continued down, lower than my original rate!

 

Free "professional" economic opinions seem to be worth what you pay for them, especially coming from the FED.

 

If all the economists in the world were laid end to end, I wouldn't be a bit surprised.

 


Edited by Rogerdodger, 15 July 2021 - 02:10 PM.


#6 fib_1618

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Posted 15 July 2021 - 03:17 PM

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#7 kinga200

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 01:15 AM

Martin Armstrong has been saying for at least a year there will be a depression going into 2022 and also he has been saying for a few years there will be strong inflation going into 2024. Perhaps like the 'stagflation' of the late 1970's. There are commodity shortages happening because a shortage of crew to run the ships. https://www.armstron...is-is-shipping/



#8 kinga200

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 01:15 AM

Martin Armstrong has been saying for at least a year there will be a depression going into 2022 and also he has been saying for a few years there will be strong inflation going into 2024. Perhaps like the 'stagflation' of the late 1970's. There are commodity shortages happening because a shortage of crew to run the ships. https://www.armstron...is-is-shipping/



#9 kinga200

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Posted 16 July 2021 - 01:16 AM

Yes Stagflation. Get ready to boogie.