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#1 da_cheif

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 02:35 PM

https://aapsonline.o...s-for-covid-19/



#2 da_cheif

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 02:39 PM

the word DON   shud be DONT.in the header



#3 Rogerdodger

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 03:34 PM

Don might be actually more appropriate than we could imagine.

 

Don: A crime boss, also known as a crime lord, Don, gang lord, kingpin, godfather, or criminal mastermind, is a person in charge of a criminal organization. The word 'Don' in Italian means boss. So the leader of a mafia gang came to be known as the DON.

 

"Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Eisenhower warned us of the huge Military-Industrial complex.

Now the Medical-Industrial complex has evolved into a similar profit based organization.

 

I love those who defend our country and those medical front line workers, both of which put their lives on the line daily.

But the mafia that controls BOTH is ruthless in their profit-above-all-else-mentality.

(It's even the latest theme on The Good Doctor TV show season finale.)

 

DON't be ignorant of the reality: Medicare and Medicaid fraud (as well as numerous other "aid" program schemes and frauds were legendary  decades before Covid opened the door even wider.

 

My wife's cousin (a high school drop-out)  was a $Million Dollar baby sitter thanks to a new government program.

Then a politician had his relative take over the business.

Now this same cousin is running another government program.

My point is that these well-intentioned government programs are often rife with excess, nepotism, kickbacks, and very often, outright fraud. Accountability is lost in the fog of papers, forms and bureaucracy.
The bigger the government, the bigger the waste.
And you wind up with million dollar baby sitters scattered across the country, or wealthy, powerful "community action programs" which are no more than political slush funds promoting more wasteful programs.

 

"Art programs" LOL! Remember "Pizz Christ", funded by a grant from the National Endowment of Art?

 

Upon admission to a once-trusted hospital, American patients with COVID-19 become virtual prisoners, subjected to a rigid treatment protocol. Most COVID-19 patients’ families are deliberately kept in the dark about what is really being done to their loved ones.  The combination that enables this tragic and avoidable loss of hundreds of thousands of lives includes (1) The CARES Act, which provides hospitals with bonus incentive payments for all things related to COVID-19 (testing, diagnosing, admitting to hospital, use of remdesivir and ventilators, reporting COVID-19 deaths, and vaccinations) and (2) waivers of customary and long-standing patient rights by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CM

 


Edited by Rogerdodger, 04 December 2021 - 07:03 PM.


#4 dwnowhere1

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Posted 04 December 2021 - 09:47 PM

Roger:

My mother passed from COVID on 1/31/2021 all the result of a fractured (not broken) hip where no surgery was done.

She had a mask when she left the house, but caught it from someone in the treatment cycle.  My best guess the rehab facility.

Personally I put the blame on former President Trump and our Governor whos' messaging advocated both for individual rights,

-- you don't need to to wear a mask -- and throwing out the Governments strategic plan for dealing with a pandemic because

they knew better.    The virus doesn't care about anyones individual rights or whether your an R or a D.

Their response was like Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

In regard to your quote, the first link https://www.wnd.com/...ocol-hospitals/appears to be

some far right wing site with little credibility IMHO.   The other links appear legit and to me point up the fact the medical system

has always triaged patients and because they are overwhelmed with COVID patients (750,000 dead and who know how many more

treated) someone has to make the difficult decision on where best to allocate resources.

 

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My point is that these well-intentioned government programs are often rife with excess, nepotism, kickbacks, and very often, outright fraud. Accountability is lost in the fog of papers, forms and bureaucracy.  The bigger the government, the bigger the waste.

 

Have evaluated many Fortune 100 and Fortune 500 companies all have their problems.  I recall one Fortune 100 where they were missing over 3 million in inventory.   Want an eye opener read about Equity Insurance and their using a 9 computer code to flag fake policies which were sold to to other insurance companies.   They then would meet periodically to kill off the fake individuals in an attempt no to get caught.

 

Whether you believe it or Not our Government does a great job of dealing with Fraud, Waste and Abuse.   A program may roll out initially and

people think their getting away with something, but in 99% of the case their caught on the tail end.


Edited by dwnowhere1, 04 December 2021 - 09:57 PM.


#5 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 12:09 AM

I also lost my mother, this year.

 

I am very sorry for your loss.

 

I am not a R or a D.

I am apolitical because the truth is that imperfect humans fail in their own lives, they sure are not qualified to live my life for me.

"It does not belong to man who is walking to direct even his own step" much less my steps.

 

I know that your emotions with your loss are so painful that they must be directed somewhere.

I hope you can heal soon for your own good.

Your mother would want that.



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Posted 05 December 2021 - 06:37 PM

 

I am not a R or a D.

I am apolitical because the truth is that imperfect humans fail in their own lives, they sure are not qualified to live my life for me.

"It does not belong to man who is walking to direct even his own step" much less my steps.

We're in agreement as I've always been an independent.

 

 

I also lost my mother, this year

My deepest condolences.

 

I know that your emotions with your loss are so painful that they must be directed somewhere.

I hope you can heal soon for your own good.

Your mother would want that.

Not in the least.  Given her age she could of gone anytime. 

But the facts are the facts.      She had no comorbidity issues and took no medication. 

I always called her the energizer bunny - which she was.

The death of some portion of that 750,000 lies at the feet of the former President and his cronies (our Governor being one them).

For me personally I just don't get what people see in the former President.

He's of poor moral character,  His book the "Art of Deal" doesn't reflect that most of his deals have gone South (AIrline, Casino, US Post Office conversion to Hotel, golf courses, etc.).   I will give him credit that he has least put forth an effort, but it appears the money lost is someone else's not his.

If I had access to his tax return (another promise broken) and books and records I could speak with authority.  If one goes into West Law or Lexus Nexus, one can lose count of the number of frivolous lawsuits, because he cannot not admit he's wrong.   Yet people still want to believe everything he's says and think he's doing things for their benefit.   What a joke!.  I guess people what to accept things without thinking like the medicine of the old west or the Pied Piper of Hamilin.  Enough Said on the former President.

 

If I can ask one thing, if you post more things related to the virus, please make sure their from creditable sources.  There is so much mis-information floating around we don't need more.


Edited by dwnowhere1, 05 December 2021 - 06:46 PM.


#7 Rogerdodger

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Posted 05 December 2021 - 08:36 PM

"please make sure they're from creditable sources"

Said the Pope to Galileo.


Edited by Rogerdodger, 05 December 2021 - 08:39 PM.


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Posted 06 December 2021 - 10:07 AM

Sorry to hear about your mother but do agree with Roger.  This seems to be a virus directed right at the elderly!  Nonetheless living in Canada and having an outside look, your out of your mind if you don't think Trump was good for "running" the country and allowing, along with your governor to have free choice.  Up here we are hammered for free choice, believe me its not a good thing, socialism isn't a great thing.  We are literally being told where were allowed to go and how many people we can even have in our homes etc etc even though its not needed as it just shows the government wants control.  For example the unvaccinated cant go to concerts, hockey games, pubs or restraunts but in some restraunts that only have bar service its ok to order your food and go sit down.  Coffee shops are wide open and Cosco is full to the brim.  It is absolutely insane what they think they can tell you what to do, not a great way to live!! 



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Posted 06 December 2021 - 11:37 AM

12SPX:

I'm familiar with Canada.   Have a number of relative that still live there.  Even have a doctor who left Canada and moved to US when Canada went with socialize medicine.

That said, while I'm a strong advocate for "free choice", there are times when lines need to be drawn.   A pandemic being one of them.   Think about traffic laws for example.

If everyone could do want they want when they want we would have chaos on the roads.   The same things holds for a bad neighbor.   If your neighbor keeps you up all night and every night partying, where does he rights end and your begin.    So a Balance needs to struck.   In the case of the virus, it is an outside force.  It doesn't care about your rights,

what party you belong to, how you vote, the color of your eyes, or anything else.   Its sole objective is to replicate itself.   It does that by infecting others.   So if one

says you can't tell me what to do, doesn't get vaccinated or wear a mask they can pass that virus along to others.   Because the virus is so deadly, that passing may be a death sentence for someone.   So should your rights to got out and do whatever cause the death of someone else.    It is no different than yelling FIRE in a crowded theater.

Your taking individual action that injures or causes the death of someone else when you know or should know better.



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Posted 06 December 2021 - 11:44 AM

There is no evidence the jabs have any positive effect on reducing transmission. The endpoint of the Pfizer study that was submitted to the FDA for EUA was reduction of mild to moderate symptoms, that's it.