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is the bull derailed after today ?


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#1 andr99

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Posted 27 January 2025 - 05:20 PM

I don't think so, 2025 will be bullish for at least some more months, then we see. They have to discharge the bull bus once in a while. They don't want too many passengers.  Is the short term correction over ? I can' t say, but

I think it's just that, a short term correction, nothing more. 


Edited by andr99, 27 January 2025 - 05:25 PM.

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#2 12SPX

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Posted 28 January 2025 - 10:07 AM

I think with risk factors, market valuations, sentiment but now with Deep Seek changing the entire tech atmosphere, as I've been saying since the election volatility is here to stay so gains will be minimal overall this year.



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Posted 28 January 2025 - 12:05 PM

Deep Seek ? Do you trust the Chinese ? Do you trust those who say covid didn't get out of a laboratory of theirs ? I don't believe a single word coming from there. China is an economic predator that artificially keeps 

a low cost for its own labour in order to disintegrate western economies. They can do that because they are a dictatorship. Until the west let them do it. Unfortunately for them something is strongly changing. 


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#4 trioderob

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Posted 28 January 2025 - 12:35 PM

Deep Seek ? Do you trust the Chinese ? Do you trust those who say covid didn't get out of a laboratory of theirs ? I don't believe a single word coming from there. China is an economic predator that artificially keeps 

a low cost for its own labour in order to disintegrate western economies. They can do that because they are a dictatorship. Until the west let them do it. Unfortunately for them something is strongly changing. 

 

ANDRE -

 

you do too much talking ..... its time to listen .... the smartest people are the ones who ask the most questions - not the ones who make the most statements 



#5 12SPX

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Posted 28 January 2025 - 02:06 PM

Totally with you but the big guys did test it and it works.  besides all that AI isn't really intelligent at all as deep seek won't say anything bad about china.  "All" and I mean all AI isn't intelligent at all, the only thing it is is faster processing to answer or create things .  There is no reasoning involved and I think in the end it will be just like the internet, it will be there and that's it, thus a flat market.  We also have the problem with expiration cycles.  If we can hold up here we are going to match the most up cycles in a row.  Do you know what happened after that.....Market didn't see new highs for 15 years!!  Going to be an interesting year, just saying....



#6 andr99

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Posted 29 January 2025 - 02:13 AM

 

Deep Seek ? Do you trust the Chinese ? Do you trust those who say covid didn't get out of a laboratory of theirs ? I don't believe a single word coming from there. China is an economic predator that artificially keeps 

a low cost for its own labour in order to disintegrate western economies. They can do that because they are a dictatorship. Until the west let them do it. Unfortunately for them something is strongly changing. 

 

ANDRE -

 

you do too much talking ..... its time to listen .... the smartest people are the ones who ask the most questions - not the ones who make the most statements 

 

 

you have just made a statement.........

 

by the way the most intelligent are those who ask the most questions to themselves and find an answer to them. I usually do it. Don't know if you too do it. If you don't agree that China is an economic predator,

 

take off the sun glasses and watch reality. 


Edited by andr99, 29 January 2025 - 02:18 AM.

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#7 andr99

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Posted 29 January 2025 - 08:28 AM

the Chinese have grown up learning from the Russians how to steal everything they can from the West in terms of intellectual property. Here is how it ended up when the Russians stole the plans of the project of the Concorde.

 

 

 

 

Unfortunately for them their spies didn't tell them that it was not possible to use the after burner for a long time in order to keep the cruise speed which would have resulted in an overheating of the engine. Unfortunately for them 

 

they couldn't put their hands on the complete project of the Concorde and that is the final result they obtained.  Evidence recently shown on an italian tv. 

 

Images are from their first attempt, they made a second one and using the afterburner too long they caused the crash of the jet and finally decided to give up with the project. 


Edited by andr99, 29 January 2025 - 08:32 AM.

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#8 12SPX

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Posted 29 January 2025 - 09:03 AM

Do think you confirmed what I said andre, now there is competition for Niveda etc so the market is going to become more volatile and go nowhere!! 



#9 andr99

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Posted 29 January 2025 - 11:44 AM

the possible scenario for the long term that I'm currently considering : market up until May or June, then deep correction and then last rise to new highs by December or early January and then market TOP and new 

 

bear market start. Although it's difficult to make long term predictions, I tend to believe that before the top that marks the start of a bear market, there's very often a deep correction that preceeds the last run upside. We haven't

 

seen yet any deep correction and nothing so far makes me think we're having one in the near term. However I'm expecting most of my financial instruments to top out by Summer which thing could lead to the deep correction

 

I'm talking about. It then the market recovers and sets new highs, well that would be the signal I'm looking for. Just my thought


Edited by andr99, 29 January 2025 - 11:45 AM.

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#10 RadioHead

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Posted 30 January 2025 - 06:37 PM

I dont think the bull is over just yet. While I see some bearish signs on the participation side and some sentiment issues, I believe they are short term for now.