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#1 OEXCHAOS

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Posted 03 June 2026 - 09:59 AM

A lot of us are able to remember 1987. I was a pup broker. I remember as spring wore on, secondaries (where all the Val-yuh Stocks were, and which Legg Mason encouraged us to focus our buying) did nothing or declined some, even as the DJIA just ground higher and higher. This of course went on for months. Had you shorted the majors, it would have been painful.

 

The current market, which has been narrowing, has a similar feel. I'm not going to say that it ends the same way. In fact, the sentiment profile is utterly inconsistent with a top of any import, let alone a Crash.But, I suppose the take-away is that, chances are, the leaders will grind higher for longer than expected, and we probably should not fight that. Also, we probably ought not bargain-hunt in the secondaries for a while.

 

ST, the very low P/C's bother me, but those tools are not as reliable as I'd like. Also, the low Rydex Ratio is pretty low, which has often, but not always, indicated some trouble ahead.

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#2 Douglas

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Posted 03 June 2026 - 03:29 PM

Mark, in the spring of 1987 several of my stock trading acquaintances in Houston were making "easy" money selling naked puts as the OEX rose to the sky, picking up dollar bills blowing in the wind in front of a steam roller.  The current put/call ratio moving average below is probably very telling. 

 

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Posted 04 June 2026 - 09:13 AM

Telling, or alarming. LOL!

OTOH, the Rydex Ratio just saw a big spike yesterday, which implies the Bearish speculators are quick to start picking a top.


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Posted 04 June 2026 - 09:36 PM

I noticed that.    I look at the OEX Put/Call Ratio and it has been bullish and does not as a contrarian like Equity and CBOE which has been decidedly Bearish for a month.    If both turn bearish watch out.   



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Posted 05 June 2026 - 05:07 AM

Speaking of bearishness that I can't explain, please tell me why the AAII sentiment survey (AAII Investor Sentiment Survey | AAII ) was net negative yesterday with the DJIA rocketing up to new all time highs like trees grow to the sky?  According to my records, the last time there were more bulls than bears was way back in the summer of 2024.  I wonder what it's going to take to get these perennially glass half full folks excited?

 

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Posted 05 June 2026 - 10:07 AM

Speaking of bearishness that I can't explain, please tell me why the AAII sentiment survey (AAII Investor Sentiment Survey | AAII ) was net negative yesterday with the DJIA rocketing up to new all time highs like trees grow to the sky?  According to my records, the last time there were more bulls than bears was way back in the summer of 2024.  I wonder what it's going to take to get these perennially glass half full folks excited?

 

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Stumped, 

Douglas

I can tell you, they almost always get meaningfully Bulled-up well in advance of any meaningful top. They are not excited by this rally, as yet.


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