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Posted 08 April 2008 - 09:02 AM

BBC:
Global temperatures 'to decrease'

By Roger Harrabin
BBC News environment analyst
4 April 2008

"Global temperatures will drop slightly this year as a result of the cooling effect of the La Nina current in the Pacific, UN meteorologists have said.
The World Meteorological Organization's secretary-general, Michel Jarraud, told the BBC it was likely that La Nina would continue into the summer.
This would mean global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory."


However GW believers dismiss this cooling as part of what they call 'variability'.
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Coldest temperatures in memory in China. (February 2008)


BBC folds, then folds again
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The BBC appears to have serially caved-in to global warmist activism. There was much online discussion this weekend about a Friday BBC global warming / La Nina related article suddenly changing its wording and with it -- its apparent balance. Today, news that an eco-activist has smugly taken credit for coercing the change has joined the conversation. And I'm now adding my discovery of a second amending in which a neutrality-vital sentence that survived the first update has now completely vanished.


The original piece by BBC News environment analyst Roger Harrabin opened with the words "Global temperatures this year will be lower than in 2007." But by day's end the lede's start was changed to "Global temperatures will drop slightly this year."

Both versions included as a third line:

"This would mean global temperatures have not risen since 1998, prompting some to question climate change theory."

But while the original followed that with:
"But experts have also forecast a record high temperature within five years, probably associated with another episode of El Nino."

The updated version read:
"But experts say we are still clearly in a long-term warming trend -- and they forecast a new record high temperature within five years."

And then added:

"The WMO points out that the decade from 1998 to 2007 was the warmest on record. Since the beginning of the 20th Century, the global average surface temperature has risen by 0.74C.

"While Nasa [sic], the US space agency, cites 2005 as the warmest year, the UK's Hadley Centre lists it as second to 1998.

"Researchers say the uncertainty in the observed value for any particular year is larger than these small temperature differences. What matters, they say, is the long-term upward trend."

What prompted the discussion-altering edit, which -- by the way -- neglected to update the post's timestamp?

This morning, Jennifer Marohasy of Australia's Institute of Public Affairs, revealed an exchange between the author and climate alarmist Jo Abbess she found on the Campaign Against Climate Change message board. It seems that the CACC board was where Abbess posted a transcript of her email debate in order to impress her fellow greenies.

Apparently unhappy with the article's emphasis on natural forces, Abbess demanded a "correction" on typical alarmist grounds. First, she countered statements Harrabin made with laughably unsubstantiated claims. Here's a taste from her first:

"Several networks exist that question whether global warming has peaked, but they contain very few actual scientists, and the scientists that they do contain are not climate scientists so have no expertise in this area."

She quickly moved on to another Gorebot favorite tactic with statements the likes of:

"I think it's counterproductive to even hint that the Earth is cooling down again."

AND

"This is not an issue of ‘debate'. This is an issue of emerging truth."

Harrabin countered each of Abbess's arguments for her demanded "correction" to the article exactly twice before the latter pulled out her big guns - ad hominem:

"I would ask : please reserve the main BBC Online channel for emerging truth.

Otherwise, I would have to conclude that you are insufficiently educated to be able to know when you have been psychologically manipulated. And that would make you an unreliable reporter."

And threats:

"I am about to send your comments to others for their contribution, unless you request I do not. They are likely to want to post your comments on forums/fora, so please indicate if you do not want this to happen. You may appear in an unfavourable light because it could be said that you have had your head turned by the sceptics."

To which the BBC News environment analyst obediently responded:

"Have a look in 10 minutes and tell me you are happier.

We have changed headline and more."

And believe it or not -- change it they did.

http://www.americant...olds_again.html

Edited by stocks, 08 April 2008 - 09:03 AM.

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Posted 08 April 2008 - 10:09 AM

No one wants to face the Inquisition.
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Posted 08 April 2008 - 11:28 AM

It seems to me that the same people who oppose fighting a real enemy(al qaeda), trip all over each other to fight an imaginary enemy(man made global warming). History tells us to enjoy the warming periods,because the cold periods are devastating. TY

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:23 AM

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 11 April 2008 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 11 April 2008 - 07:39 AM

Reason Magazine sent Science Correspondent Ronald Bailey to the Heartland Institute's controversial International Conference on Climate Change. Ron, and frankly the entire crew over there at Reason are intellectually honest and rigorous. I go to Reason first for a deeper, insightful read on any matter.

From the article:

Finally, one of the more disquieting presentations was by retired TV meteorologist Anthony Watts. Part of Watts' training back when he was getting his degree in 1970s was to construct a Stevenson screen in which to shelter weather instruments. When he was putting it together his hands got covered in whitewash. He complained to his professor and suggested that he paint it with latex paint instead. His professor objected that whitewash had been used since 1892 and new paints would change the way the instruments functioned and possibly bias the data they collected. The U.S. Weather Bureau changed paints in the late 1970s.

The whole thing is here, plus two other dispatches.

http://www.reason.co...how/125300.html

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Posted 11 April 2008 - 10:10 AM

The "uncertainties inherent in temperature reconstructions" mentioned in the article have always bothered me.

All temperature data from the distant past are "reconstructions" based on data and models which often are wrong or measured in different ways.

And look at the problem with models mentioned in the article linked above:
University of Rochester physicist David Douglass presented the results of his recent study that compared the outputs of 22 different climate models with observational temperature data in the tropical troposphere. According to Douglass, the models show that tropical troposphere should warm as much as 3 times faster than surface. However, when this result is checked against observational temperature data from satellites and weather balloons, it turns out the surface and troposphere warm at about the same rate. Thus, Douglass concludes, greenhouse gases must be having only a minor impact on global temperature trends.

THESE 22 MODELS ARE WRONG!
How many other models are wrong or based on errant "reconstructions"?
"Garbage in = Garbage out."


Perhaps we need to bring back Galileo.
He questioned the "consensus" and faced the inquisition for it.
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How dare you question consensus Mr. Galileo?

Galileo contributed to the rejection of blind allegiance to authority (like the Church) or other thinkers (such as Aristotle) in matters of science and to the separation of science from philosophy or religion. These are the primary justifications for his description as the "father of science".


THEREFORE: "
consensus" is un-scientific.
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Edited by Rogerdodger, 11 April 2008 - 10:23 AM.


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Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:00 AM

BBC wants to be a clearing house for activist propaganda:


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Posted 16 April 2008 - 02:35 PM

:) THE BRAIN BEHIND THE WORLD WARMING SCARE MSS
WOMEN & CATS WILL DO AS THEY PLEASE, AND MEN & DOGS SHOULD GET USED TO THE IDEA.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 09:45 PM

Snowfall breaks record
JUNEAU EMPIRE
Friday, April 18, 2008

Juneau's snowfall record for April 17 was buried under more than a half-foot of snow Thursday.

The National Weather Service recorded 7.5 inches of snow Thursday at its Juneau International Airport weather station. The record had been only 1.1 inches, received on April 17 in 1948.

The storm that started Wednesday night dropped a total of 10.5 inches at the airport, 12.5 inches at the service's Juneau office on Mendenhall Loop Road, and 9 inches downtown.

Early Thursday morning, 10 inches of new snow was reported at the base of Eaglecrest Ski Area, which is closed for the season.

Juneau has seen double the average amount of precipitation so far this month, according to meteorologist Brian Bezenek. Through Thursday morning, 3.39 inches of precipitation had fallen in April, and the historical average is an inch and a half. Temperatures also have been cooler than average, Bezenek said.

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 10:30 AM

Winter weather sets several records
With file from Darah Hansen, Canwest News Service; Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, April 21, 2008
All that April snow this weekend was more than surprising -- it was also record-setting.
The flakes that fell across the Vancouver region Friday night and Saturday represent the latest snowfall ever on record.
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No heaven on Earth Day
Monday April 21st
Wintry blast cools global warming fervour

So much for global warming. Earth Day festivities went ahead despite the blast of frigid weather yesterday.
Vendors and presenters from various eco-friendly groups, including Bullfrog Power, CO2 Reduction Edmonton and the local solar energy society, crammed into a lone tent in Hawrelak Park after a blizzard forced them to abandon their original locations.

A handful of visitors still took the time to inquire about several solar-powered products on display at the M.E.C. booth and browsed several others before running off toward the lone heater in the tent to warm up.
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"the lone heater in the tent to warm up"???
I wonder if it was a solar heater?
Or a windmill?
How about a big sweater?

Edited by Rogerdodger, 21 April 2008 - 10:40 AM.