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#1 EntropyModel

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 10:27 PM

Someone asked me about projection on FF, so here is what I have been using.

Based on my own unpublished method, these are the top 2 probability time-price projections I have. To briefly explain their derivation ( same method I used to call bull market top early Nov 2007 and swing wave later nov 13, when it works it works well, of course sometimes it doesn't...no holy grail exists)-
1. I apply standard ewave
2. I apply my own extended fractal rules which include price/time rules to reduce the 'positive set' i.e. to reject a large number of possible alternate counts that plague ewave.
3. I look for 'short-term memory fractals' - repeating fractals are different orders of magnitudes, think of a small head and shoulder on the right shoulder of a larger H&S, that's the same idea.
4. I use 1-3 to project forward.

You cannot generate a projection unless 1-3 are present, in ewave terms, you need at least wave 1 to be clear. For example this projection could only be developed in april, not before.

As said on the chart, I primarily use these projections to judge risk/reward - how else can ya' do it without a judgement of possible price movement size?? I also generate these patterns all the way down to 1minute when I'm day-trading, and looking for 'Self-agreement or disagreement'.

Sorry if it sounds WAY more complicated than it is - but I don't want to really say how it works, because its the best tool I have particularly on the day-swing trade stuff.

These patterns have worked beautifully for me this year, EXCEPT for that short-ban rally, since that way a 'unatural' price event, but price has since gotten' back on the projected path.


The chart is probably a too big to show here, so easier to use the links below.
* as I say, if the price deviates than I can no-longer use the projection, there's no 'alternative'.

http://img374.images...oct1projjm4.gif

Projection Chart


Mark.

Edited by entropy, 05 October 2008 - 10:40 PM.

Question everything, especially what you believe you know. The foundation of science is questioning the data, not trusting the data. I only trust fully falsified, non vested interest 'data', which is extremely rare in our world of paid framing narratives 'psy ops'. Market Comments https://markdavidson.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLznkbTx_dpw_-Y9bBN3QR-tiNSsFsSojB

#2 EntropyModel

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Posted 05 October 2008 - 11:50 PM

While i'm at it, here at my long standing projection from early 2005.

Pretty heavy E-wave here - but the pictures are fairly clear.


If you look you'll see I was looking for a price high in 2006-2007 on Dow/NYSE that exceeded the 2000 high. I've had a long running detailed markup of that wave count on my public chart list (page 2 ) for a year or so, I haven't updated it since November 2007 ( when I called for bull top)....its the 2nd to last chart , I can't seem to link it here for some reason, sorry. But In ewave terms - I had us in Primary wave 3, subwave 5 in the 2002-2007 runup. The natural retracement of wave 3 is to its wave 4 ie. back to at least 2002 lows, but since SPX will likely go below, to 500-600 area.

As you'll see, I was looking for a wave 3 or 5 top at the Nov top 2007, once it broken fib 0.3 retracement support it was clearly wave 5 - and PERFECTLY fit my count where wave 1 = wave 5, simply beautiful!!!


Since everything has followed to expectation since 2005, I increasingly confident of the counts and projections. The ideal final confirmation will be for wave 1 down that I believe we're in off the Nov 2007 top, to finish AT OR BELOW 1000 SPX, before wave 2 retracement.

Bottom line - long term forecast from 2005 for top in 2007 was correct, and continuous to project SPX 500-700./DOW 5000-6000 area for THE LOW probably 2010-2012 timeframe, then a secular bull run into 2030'ish to Dow 30,000 ish primary 5 - presumably something very dramatic happens then ...either end of the world(er, a negative outcome), or total paradigm change in economic system (perhaps a positive outcome).


Oh yeah... .none of this helps with trading except to understand CONTEXT, and why certain indicators may fail, has served me very well this year because as my signature line says I use Sentiment indicators very heavily, and so I downweighted their signficance, and allowed for more extreme measures than normal...context is everything.

best,
Mark.

Edited by entropy, 06 October 2008 - 12:02 AM.

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 04:15 PM

Hello entropy. Thanks for the updates. Any idea how low we might go to finish off wave 1. Do you think sub 900 is possible? What kind of retracement are you looking for? Thanks again - I always look forward to your posts. Joe

#4 dougie

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Posted 07 October 2008 - 05:24 PM

wow: hats off to you on that projection

#5 EntropyModel

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 12:20 AM

Thanks guys, sorry I didn't reply I was on a little trip away.

Current wave low - its on the red projection ..around SPX 800-900 ( we are sort of there now since I posted it), but we likely wont' reach that lower range 800 for a while, I expect things to get choppier with slowing down momentum, some rallies lasting a days to a few week soon.

its all on the red path selected by break-away gap to spx 1070 as per comments on chart -

http://img374.images...oct1projjm4.gif

Now, if we do NOT begin to get some rallies, slow the down momentum, then I do have a pattern setup target of SPX 600 in a couple of weeks!! That fits my longer term projection, but time wise is very quick, so lets wait and see what happens. If Spx 800-900 doesn't hold, I will show a chart of this setup, its really amazing infact.

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Mark.
Question everything, especially what you believe you know. The foundation of science is questioning the data, not trusting the data. I only trust fully falsified, non vested interest 'data', which is extremely rare in our world of paid framing narratives 'psy ops'. Market Comments https://markdavidson.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLznkbTx_dpw_-Y9bBN3QR-tiNSsFsSojB

#6 rw2020

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 09:10 PM

Entropy

Thank you so much for taking the time to post!
Realize --that there are many appreciative-viewers who--
don't post you a ---Thank You--but still want to Thank You!

Great editorial-reviews & future-projections--- (many of which were projected
1 to 2 years ago! of "coming financial meltdown") are-----

http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini

http://www.safehaven.com/

http://www.financialsense.com/


Robert