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#1 da_cheif

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Posted 09 September 2021 - 09:40 PM

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/33278625/

 

https://www.thedeser...c9e8ddc005.html


Edited by da_cheif, 09 September 2021 - 09:42 PM.


#2 Rogerdodger

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 08:24 AM

Nobel Prize Winning Medicines are

NOT APPROVED by Lord Fauci.

 

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 10 September 2021 - 08:25 AM.


#3 claire

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Posted 10 September 2021 - 06:26 PM

 

The first report was about preliminary data in a small group (72 subjects total divided into 3 groups of hospitals patients). They stated that the findings needed to be verified by larger studies. It has NOT been verified.

 

The 2nd article is a tangled science-babble report conflating the positive effects of the treatment for River Blindness with treatment for Covid and published in "The Desert Review?" - not worth the time to read.

 

During Feb., 2021, Merke said: "its analysis of existing and emerging studies of ivermectin to treat Covid 19 found no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effort for covid." They added that "there was a concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies testing ivermectin to treat covid and cautioned against the use of the drug beyond its use as an antiparasitic."  https://www.merck.co...id-19-pandemic/

 

To date, Merck has not changed that view, and they are the manufacturer of Ivermectin. I've sure they would be delighted to promote it as effective if it were.

 

The largest and most comprehensive current studies have not verified any benefits and all address safety concerns - not just for the large veterinary doses but for any treatment.  Yet, many physicians who should know better are passing out Rxs to patients not only for treatment but prevention of Covid and for long term use! I hope the placebo effect helps some, comforts others, and doesn't damage many. I also hope those people aren't foolishly encouraged to use few measures for self-protection and the protection of others as well as feel no need to be vaccinated.


Edited by claire, 10 September 2021 - 06:29 PM.


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 09:04 PM

Nobody ever mentions the best anti-covid prophylactic, keeping lungs well oxygenated with exercise.

I am convinced that daily exercise routine has kept me away from colds, coughs, flu and covid for decades.

Latest treatment in hospitals has shown better covid recovery with oxygen therapy instead of ventilators pumping air.  As additional bonus, I need zero prescriptions and can mow my suburban lawn in Florida summers with a push mower (not self-propelled) without needing breaks. OK so I am still pretty young at age 81 haha. 


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Posted 10 September 2021 - 09:42 PM

Yep I believe as well. I grew up AAU competitive swimming.

Swim at least 4 miles a week. Drink at least 90oz a water a day. As well Boost pure oxygen bottles once a week.

Just me.

#6 gismeu

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Posted 12 September 2021 - 09:31 PM

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/33278625/
 
https://www.thedeser...c9e8ddc005.html

 
The first report was about preliminary data in a small group (72 subjects total divided into 3 groups of hospitals patients). They stated that the findings needed to be verified by larger studies. It has NOT vaccinated.

Claire,

Did you ever look at

Www.Flccc.net ?

These doctors have been using Ivermectin successfully for a long time.

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#7 claire

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Posted 12 September 2021 - 10:47 PM

 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/33278625/
 
https://www.thedeser...c9e8ddc005.html

 
The first report was about preliminary data in a small group (72 subjects total divided into 3 groups of hospitals patients). They stated that the findings needed to be verified by larger studies. It has NOT vaccinated.

Claire,

Did you ever look at

Www.Flccc.net ?

These doctors have been using Ivermectin successfully for a long time.

gis

 

 

They CLAIM to have been using Ivermectin successfully for a long time. The only things I've heard is that the  mainstream scientific and medical communities reject their conclusions because they make claims based on very sketchy small studies, inflate the findings, and exaggerate the conclusions without doing any well-controlled studies to justify their claims. They have repeatedly been asked to offer clear evidence for their claims rather than making videos of unpublished information that can't be scrutinized by experts. I was pleased, however, to learn that Dr. Marik does advocate wearing masks and getting vaccinated.


Edited by claire, 12 September 2021 - 10:49 PM.


#8 K Wave

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 09:30 AM

 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/33278625/
 
https://www.thedeser...c9e8ddc005.html

 
The first report was about preliminary data in a small group (72 subjects total divided into 3 groups of hospitals patients). They stated that the findings needed to be verified by larger studies. It has NOT vaccinated.

Claire,

Did you ever look at

Www.Flccc.net ?

These doctors have been using Ivermectin successfully for a long time.

gis

 

I have witnessed the powerful effect of Ivermectin first hand.

Others can only spew nonsense they have no actual knowledge of.

 

After reading literally hundred of reports of people having incredible success quickly with Ivermectin...

 

My nephew very recently came down with Covid and was going downhill fast with full blown Covid symptoms, so on about day 4, we got him some Ivermectin.

After first dose, progression stopped, and he said he felt slightly better.

2nd dose, substantially better.

3rd dose, pretty much back to normal.

 

And this has been the general experience of almost all the folks who have documented their experience with it.

 

Your mileage may vary, but Ivermection has proven itself to generally very safe after nearly 4 billion doses in Humans, even at much higher doses than being used for covid in some trials.

As with any drug, there could be a one off where some has a bad reaction, but it has a better saftey record than Tylenol. One gal even tried to commit suicide by taking 1200 mg (400 3mg piils!), or 50 to 100 times the dose for Covid, and survived just fine, with some side effects, but no organ damage etc. Don't try taking a 100x dose of Tylenol.......

 

If you cannot put 2 and 2 together on the all out war on Ivermectin, well then, it is what it is....


The strength of Government lies in the people's ignorance, and the Government knows this, and will therefore always oppose true enlightenment. - Leo Tolstoy

 

 


#9 claire

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 11:00 AM

 

 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/33278625/
 
https://www.thedeser...c9e8ddc005.html

 
The first report was about preliminary data in a small group (72 subjects total divided into 3 groups of hospitals patients). They stated that the findings needed to be verified by larger studies. It has NOT vaccinated.

Claire,

Did you ever look at

Www.Flccc.net ?

These doctors have been using Ivermectin successfully for a long time.

gis

 

I have witnessed the powerful effect of Ivermectin first hand.

Others can only spew nonsense they have no actual knowledge of.

 

After reading literally hundred of reports of people having incredible success quickly with Ivermectin...

 

My nephew very recently came down with Covid and was going downhill fast with full blown Covid symptoms, so on about day 4, we got him some Ivermectin.

After first dose, progression stopped, and he said he felt slightly better.

2nd dose, substantially better.

3rd dose, pretty much back to normal.

 

And this has been the general experience of almost all the folks who have documented their experience with it.

 

Your mileage may vary, but Ivermection has proven itself to generally very safe after nearly 4 billion doses in Humans, even at much higher doses than being used for covid in some trials.

As with any drug, there could be a one off where some has a bad reaction, but it has a better saftey record than Tylenol. One gal even tried to commit suicide by taking 1200 mg (400 3mg piils!), or 50 to 100 times the dose for Covid, and survived just fine, with some side effects, but no organ damage etc. Don't try taking a 100x dose of Tylenol.......

 

If you cannot put 2 and 2 together on the all out war on Ivermectin, well then, it is what it is....

 

 

 

For centuries, people have made claims of cures for just about any illness or disease, with all manner of treatment, and have supplied anecdotal *evidence* of cures. This includes all kinds of "snake-oils," potions, magical cures by healers, rituals, prayers, exorcisms, crystals, and a large variety of other treatments that may be harmless or very harmful.

 

Most of these had some credentialed people supporting the claims which they verified by poorly conducted studies or anecdotal *evidence* that supported their views. People don't offer anecdotal evidence of those for whom it shows no effect. Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence. 

Some are scams for monetary gains. Some are honest efforts. The only way to verify such claims are by properly conducted scientific testing. Sometimes the evidence isn't clear until many such studies are done. When we learn more, it's possible we will learn that it may be helpful for some people or under certain conditions.

 

There are a host of repurposed drugs being investigated that may reduce symptoms for some people. Some may be very useful.  Here is the latest comprehensive review of Ivermectin, which may not be the final word, but it's where we are now re Ivermectin. 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/34318930/



#10 gismeu

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Posted 14 September 2021 - 02:28 PM

Claire,

Give it a rest!

What you say would have more credence if the FDA and CDC were not run by crooks and the media were not bought by big pharma.

There are just too many doctors that confirm the efficacy of IVM.

Go to flccc.net and scroll down a bit. On the left side there is an article from India called ‘Defeating the Delta variant.’
This is just one of many success stories.

I don’t always need double blind placebo controlled studies. More often than not, common sense works just as well.

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