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#1 Rogerdodger

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Posted 23 January 2023 - 11:35 PM

Is ENTROPY actually a computer posting Deep Fake charts? purebs.gif

 

IT'S A BRAVE NEW WORLD FUR SURE!

AP: Recent research shared by the professor showed that the AI-powered chatbot, release two months ago, can already  successfully achieve an MBA, and may soon be able to pass notoriously difficult tests like the United States Medical Licensing Exam and the Bar Exam

 

Google is freaking out about ChatGPT

Google announced it’s laying off more than 12,000 employees and focusing on AI as a domain of primary importance.

Laid-off Google engineer says he was in 'a state of shock' after being locked out of work emails at 3 a.m

Google has plans to “demonstrate a version of its search engine with chatbot features this year” and unveil more than 20 projects powered by artificial intelligence.

 

If Chat GPT can pass the bar exam, write essays and graduate as a physician,

How might such similar AI affect the stock market even more than computers already drive prices?

 

ChatGPT CAN pass US Medical Licensing Exam and the Bar, experts warn - after the AI chatbot received B grade on Wharton MBA paper

 

WOW!  swoon.gif

 

When asked for a “witty opening paragraph for a Stanford Daily article about ChatGPT and the Stanford Honor Code,”

the chatbot produced the following:

“ChatGPT, a popular artificial intelligence tool, has recently sparked a debate on campus about its role in academic integrity. Some argue that using ChatGPT to complete assignments is a violation of the Honor Code, while others claim it’s simply a tool for idea generation. The question remains: is ChatGPT a helpful helper or a dishonest cheat? One thing is for certain: the stakes are high, and the future of AI at Stanford hangs in the balance.”

 

The title Brave New World derives from William Shakespeare's The Tempest,

Shakespeare's use of the phrase is intended ironically, as the speaker is failing to recognize the evil nature of the island's visitors because of her innocence.

O wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't
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— William Shakespeare, The Tempest, Act V, Scene I, ll.

 

 

Simon Cowell DEEP FAKE SINGING:

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 24 January 2023 - 01:46 PM.


#2 Chilidawgz

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Posted 24 January 2023 - 10:38 AM

Ugh, Brave New World and 1984 fully realized. We are so screwed.


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#3 linrom1

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Posted 24 January 2023 - 10:52 AM

Improved version of "******** in, ******** out". Here is an answer that ChitGPT will give in 2035 to question who started WWII - "WWII was started by the Soviet Union's invasion of Ukraine and Germany's response to liberate Eastern Europe in 1941."



#4 Rogerdodger

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Posted 24 January 2023 - 01:37 PM

Improved version of "garbage in, garbage out".

 

I see your point. 

If ChatGDP  was invented in the 1600s and asked "who is Galileo?"  it would answer with the unproven, ever-changing "consensus truth" of the time:

Something like,

 

"Galileo is a deranged criminal imprisoned for his heretical conspiracy against the Holy see.

This demon possessed man teaches that the Earth is not the center of the universe." 

 

(Kinda like today's mainstream, ever-changing political "truth" about Covid.)  purebs.gif

 

AI app faces backlash for allowing users to 'chat' with Hitler...

In just over two weeks since its launch, the app called Historical Figures has gained popularity for letting people ‘talk’ to nearly 20,000 notable people from history.

However, people are not happy that the app lets you have conversations with Hitler, his Nazi lieutenants and other dictators. 

The app’s version of Heinrich Himmler, the chief of Nazi Germany’s SS and an architect of the Holocaust, denied that he was responsible despite his well-documented role.


Edited by Rogerdodger, 25 January 2023 - 03:10 PM.


#5 EntropyModel

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 12:56 PM

Yes, I am an AI - a biological one infact we all are wink.png

 

I find it amusing people freaking out about AI without understanding what it is.

I try to explain alot of this on my video's but its difficult because there is alot of knoweldge from multi discplines involved to understand, which is my background just FYI.

SO, if you want to understand I can explain to any level you want but realize its complicated.

 

What is really going on here with these 'AIs' is people trying to get FUNDING for R&D - by claiming XYZ and 'freaking people out' - its marketing.

 

What is NOT going on, is anything resembling HUMAN INTELLIGENCE - which i've spent 40 years studying, and most of people working on these so called AI know little about, that is NOT what these are.

 

Let me try to give 101 -

 - coding languages use LOGIC - ( I actually created a language once on a project!) ..logic is about  SEQUENCE . in what we call a 'bounded problem space'  - so here is big primer, for example

 go study the 10 AXIOMS of mathematics ...  I can't really simply explain all this, I had to study Betrand Russell 1+1=2 pure maths are primer.

 

 - AI in current forms does NOT use Logic - it uses FUZZY LOGIC ..to try to what's called 'emulate' (emulate means to appear like, but not actually be something ..so I can 'emulate' human intellgience see Blade runner movie explores this)...

which tries to copy human non binary logic, which is what is called PROBABILITY CATCHMENTS ...again, this is alot of explain ...but its fundamentally different - > this can be done through neural nets, or in software and in future

 is better suited to QUANTUM computing. 

 

Now - here is what most dont' understand, ^this is JUst ONE aspect of human cognition - there are hundreds. So just by emulating one aspect, it is not remotely close to human 'thinking'.  

 

What these AI"s CAN do well - is Pattern recognition, and anything with data.  Pattern recognition can be language to some degree and so 'answering questions' ..and obviously memory/retrieval isn't an issue so yes

'passing difficult exams' is easy if the language recogntion is good.

 

What these AI's can NOT do well - is COMPREHENSION - they do not actually 'understand' the questions or answers! they are just processing it as information/patterns ...and should be obvious, they don't have feeling/senses and

cannot incorperate that - thus they have no MOTIVATIONs, and must be directed to 'learn' -  they also can only be 'templated' in creativeness ie. re-arrange existing works ...they cannot be truly creative as say Mozart, to understand

why I suggest listening to my youtube channel as its complex actually beyond most intellects ironically.

 

But these AI's WILL be able to replace most jobs, and do alot of tasks better than us within 10-20 years. What they will never do/be is 'alive' 'conscious' 'free will' 'feel' etc but they could EMULATE that and fool alot of people, which

is why understanding of this is i've gove over briefly important, as without doubt there is attempt by the technocracy to exaggerate the capabilities of AI and try to 'down play' the incredible nature of human intellgience which is 

light years beyond these.


Edited by EntropyModel, 26 January 2023 - 12:56 PM.

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#6 Rogerdodger

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Posted 26 January 2023 - 11:48 PM

"FUNDING for R&D"

 

I am the original R&D "RogerDodger" and I approve of the funding!  purebs.gif

 

I don't know if this applies to your points, but there have been people who drove into a lake following Google Maps.

I use it all the time and often it can be off by miles.

There is supposedly a way to correct it but has never worked for me..

We have a dead end in front of our house.

For years it was full of people looking for the Apple store, which was 2 miles directly north of the dead end.

 

PS: Amazon ALWAYS delivers my orders to a house around the corner.

Now I tell them that I didn't get the package and they refund my money.

Then I go and get my "free" package.

 

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 27 January 2023 - 12:01 AM.


#7 K Wave

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 08:43 AM

"FUNDING for R&D"

 

I am the original R&D "RogerDodger" and I approve of the funding!  purebs.gif

 

I don't know if this applies to your points, but there have been people who drove into a lake following Google Maps.

I use it all the time and often it can be off by miles.

There is supposedly a way to correct it but has never worked for me..

We have a dead end in front of our house.

For years it was full of people looking for the Apple store, which was 2 miles directly north of the dead end.

 

PS: Amazon ALWAYS delivers my orders to a house around the corner.

Now I tell them that I didn't get the package and they refund my money.

Then I go and get my "free" package.

 

Jeff Bezos wants to take me to Mars...No Thanks! swoon.gif

Yeah, I had quite a google maps experience in the mountains of Costa Rica!

 

Luckily, found civilization and a gas station eventually.


The strength of Government lies in the people's ignorance, and the Government knows this, and will therefore always oppose true enlightenment. - Leo Tolstoy

 

 


#8 Rogerdodger

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 12:36 PM

Who will be the judges of AI's "TRUTH"?

 

Big Tech was moving cautiously on AI. Then came ChatGPT.

 

Three months before ChatGPT debuted in November, Facebook’s parent company Meta released a similar chatbot. But unlike the phenomenon that ChatGPT instantly became, with more than a million users in its first five days, Meta’s Blenderbot was boring, said Meta’s chief artificial intelligence scientist, Yann LeCun.
“The reason it was boring was because it was made safe,”

Tech giants have been skittish since public debacles like Microsoft’s Tay, which it took down in less than a day in 2016 after trolls prompted the bot to call for a race war, suggest Hitler was right and tweet “Jews did 9/11.” Meta defended Blenderbot and left it up after it made racist comments in August, but pulled down another AI tool, called Galactica, in November after just three days amid criticism over its inaccurate and sometimes biased summaries of scientific research.

 

(Kinda like today's mainstream, "NEWS" including it's ever-changing political "truth" about Covid, Climate Change, etc.)


Edited by Rogerdodger, 27 January 2023 - 12:42 PM.


#9 EntropyModel

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 01:00 PM

Google maps etc - yeah that is either data errors, or GPS positioning errors - not really AI issue.

 

Who will judge AI 'truth's' -  it really should be called 'emulated pattern recognition' - 

 - example of emulation - do you believe the Frog puppet 'knows' what is playing? 

 

The problem with a word like TRUTH - is it has no actual meaning, your biological computer fools us into 'feeling' it has a meaning - this is called polymorphic resolution.

 

So, we can 'ask question' that have no meaning - so infact, there is no truth ... it all depends on your perspective. 

If I choose a 'science perspective' my truth is repeatable, observable data.

If I choose a 'human perspective' my truth is personal experience. (dead opposite often to scientific truth)

and so on.

 

If you are asking 'who decided the ABSOLUTE truth' - well, read the Enlightenment as as start.  My asnwer is my entire life spent understanding this question, explained in my videos as best I can.

Truth is mountain, the very top is 'absolute truth', every at 'lower elevation' is 'subjective truth' - and to 'get up the mountain' takes incredible 'work and 'effort' -  of phyiscal, intellectual journeys I describe, until

you hit what i call the 'intellectual chasm'  of self calibration beyond meta thinking few have reached ...then you must go insane, to understand sanity, and then you can 'see the truth' but never tell another person by

its nature each person must do the 'hike' up the mountain.

 

SO both PEOPLE and so called AI have no 'absolute truth',( the 'feeling of truth is an illusion/delusion of our uncalibrated biological computer as I explain)  just varying perspectives on the truth mountain. 

 

Let me put in a simpler way - do you really 'know the truth of a mountain' when you see it from ONE view point? know ..you know it more, if you walk 360degree around it, or then walk up it and around it from every angle

and 'see' every part of it ..then you could view it from above, or bring a micrscope and see it at smaller and smaller level - so can you ever reach 'absolute knowing/truth' of that mountain?

* I shd add 'intellect' works like this mountain metaphor I came up with - but 'comprehension/feelings etc do NOT - I call this 'symphonic perception' and the TWO types of 'truth' we try to balance in ourselves but never can - big

discussion- hence my long video's.


Edited by EntropyModel, 27 January 2023 - 01:12 PM.

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#10 EntropyModel

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Posted 27 January 2023 - 01:29 PM

FYI - if you want to understand this language in the brain and AI's and other issue a bit more I go into here:

 

Part of this channel I started - alas no 'one video' can 'explain it' - infact words cannot explain anything once you understand mind calibration as I call it...truth is long journey

few want to take.

https://www.youtube....3QR-tiNSsFsSojB


Edited by EntropyModel, 27 January 2023 - 01:30 PM.

Question everything, especially what you believe you know. The foundation of science is questioning the data, not trusting the data. I only trust fully falsified, non vested interest 'data', which is extremely rare in our world of paid framing narratives 'psy ops'. Market Comments https://markdavidson.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLznkbTx_dpw_-Y9bBN3QR-tiNSsFsSojB