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Candian Royalty Trusts 02/28/06


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#1 PorkLoin

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 08:45 PM

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Natural gas is down 25% from Jan. 18, and I had thought that was a good time to start a trust portfolio, given the NG price decline to that point. NG is down 57% from the December high. Whew. At some point, and this is a huge question for me, NG (and crude oil) will put in price bottoms. NG may be near a bottom, at least in terms of price, since it's down so far. I'm watching crude oil. IMO it could go well down into the $50s if not even into the $40s.

ARC is top quality and it shows. I give it a 10 for security.

Calpine is doing fine. Power isn't as volatile in price as oil & NG. Some of the fear discount in price due to parent company Calpine (painted with the Enron brush somewhat) has come out.

Canetic and Harvest are big, solid trusts. Very good buys when oil bottoms.

Daylight is a newer trust, paying almost 15% in dividends, but it's not paying out too much of its free cash so I think this will be a big moneymaker in the long run for shareholders.

Esprit isn't down all that much considering its big weighting to natural gas. I'm not worried about the dividend right now, and when NG bottoms this is one to get.

NAL is top-quality also. Conservative management. I give it a 9 for security. My biggest position, personally.

NAV -- taking a pretty good hit in share price. This was the last one to cut dividends and looks to me like the market may be fearing another. Not me. Almost 14% dividend. Good one to buy when NG & Oil bottom.

Peyto has the lowest costs and highest netback. Grows by the drillbit rather than by purchasing production and diluting share value. I bought some more on the spike low two weeks ago, and we may have had another spike low today, at higher levels. Here too, at such time as I think NG is bottoming I'll buy more Peyto.

I'm guessing Shiningbank is in trouble. Dividend was 23 cents per share, monthly, since June 2003, then went to 30 cents last Nov. when NG averaged about $12. Now NG is below $7. Shiningbank was paying out about 80% of free cash in dividends before, and I don't see how it can be maintained with NG down so far. Stock is down $5 since mid-Jan, and down almost $8 from the high last December. A dividend cut would boot another $2 to $4 off the share price, IMO. If it gaps down like that, I'd buy some. If NG bottoms, I'd buy some. This has been a great trust, returning almost 30% per year in dividends and share price appreciation since its beginning.

Thunder -- good grief, almost 18% dividend now. I wonder if the payouts can be maintained even though the stated purpose of the trust is to provide consistent dividends. 2005 results were decent and as far as I can tell the outlook is good, though the market may not agree. I know the least about Thunder. The NG price is a big factor here.

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 10:11 PM

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One correction -- for Advantage Energy the payout in dividends is almost 80%.


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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:23 AM

Natural gas is down 25% from Jan. 18, and I had thought that was a good time to start a trust portfolio, given the NG price decline to that point. NG is down 57% from the December high. Whew. At some point, and this is a huge question for me, NG (and crude oil) will put in price bottoms. NG may be near a bottom, at least in terms of price, since it's down so far. I'm watching crude oil. IMO it could go well down into the $50s if not even into the $40s.
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:) Nice to see different opinions that lead to the same outcome over time. :P

Oil may hold here in the $58-60 range and rebound to $65 before another decline. Problem is the need for oil is not going away any time soon. Therefore the price will rise and can/could reach $100+ per bbl. Timing may be now to buy or mid May IMO.
Nat. Gas will decline to the $6.+/- range and there is an outside chance of $4.50+/- and like oil the demand is not going away any time soon. The "hype" not enough winter left is BS as industry uses the bulk of the gas for processing and utilities use it winter and summer. The price could get back to the $7/8 range by Sept/Oct. but do not think we see $14 for awhile.
The Trusts should do very well once prices stabilize and dividends will once again draw investors. Just my thoughts. B)

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 10:49 AM

MSS: Oil may hold here in the $58-60 range and rebound to $65 before another decline. Problem is the need for oil is not going away any time soon. Therefore the price will rise and can/could reach $100+ per bbl. Timing may be now to buy or mid May IMO. Nat. Gas will decline to the $6.+/- range and there is an outside chance of $4.50+/- and like oil the demand is not going away any time soon. The "hype" not enough winter left is BS as industry uses the bulk of the gas for processing and utilities use it winter and summer. The price could get back to the $7/8 range by Sept/Oct. but do not think we see $14 for awhile. The Trusts should do very well once prices stabilize and dividends will once again draw investors.


Agreed on the long term, MSS. Energy Information Agency predicts a 2.2% rise in world demand for oil this year. World demand at current oil prices will outstrip supply in the coming years -- I feel sure of that barring economic depression. So, prices are very likely to go up. I'm on the lookout for deflation and depression too -- not ruling that out at all.

Oil and Gold feel similar to me now. More correction to come or is the overall uptrend still in force and we already have bottomed for this swing down? I'm not too worried about that question, and remain heavily (heavily, heavily) invested in energy. Uranium producers and exploration companies (I think this is where the biggest money will be made). Royalty trusts. Oil Sands. Some alternative energy stuff and up-and-coming gas and oil producers, some who operate by unconventional means. The big boys like Exxon are gonna have to pay lots of money to replace reserves and some of the little guys are gonna get bought. I want to own them first.

The easy money has already been made in energy (obviously) at least for a while. The mega move into late 2005 is done. I believe that patience will pay off here, as will buying on spike lows and trying to accumulate at low prices for the eventual continuation of the overall bull market. And you know the market will do its best to thwart such plans. Who knows? Maybe we've seen the top for some years, and depression lies ahead.

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Doug