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[maineman]

Interesting study from the Canadian Cardiac Randomized Evaluation of Antidepressant and Psychotherapy Efficacy trial (the CREATE study). Depression after a cardiac event (heart attack, angina, etc) is associated with a 3-fold increase in subsequent mortality. That's serious. The study was a blinded randomized study (patients, nurses, doctors, etc. did not know which prescription group they were in). Some got a commonly used modern anti-depressant, some got placebo. They were further divided into weekly IPT groups (interpersonal psychotherapy) or just "routine" care. The only group that did better was the group on antidepressants. The addition of IPT showed no additional benefit. Kind of a "depressing" result, actually. I spend an enormous amount of time with depressed patients, often staying late, spending 45 to 60 min talking through problems, and using "psychotherapy". Kind of hard to swallow the fact that a pill works better? Anyway, I thought I'd share the result, I thought it was interesting. I fully expect to get wailed on, too, by the "Big Pharma Controlling our lives" conspiracy group. In the words of our fearless leader, "Bring it on" mm ps...study author is Francois Lesperance, MD from University of Montreal)

[J.Bilkins]

Kind of a "depressing" result, actually. I spend an enormous amount of time with depressed patients, often staying late, spending 45 to 60 min talking through problems, and using "psychotherapy". Kind of hard to swallow the fact that a pill works better?


Perhaps it is the view of the mindset from the beggining that is wrong.

for example. I obsess over my problem so I already know all the details. In my mind I feel I have obsessed over them as much as the psychotherapist. I also had 0 issues with my family so it was all me so it was not scars from beating beat when I was young.
I was an amateur with greed, pride and vanity in the second grade but nonetheless...


Psychotherapy was ridiculous to me(20 years ago). I was an inpatient at one of the zombie farms in the 9th grade summer.....I had sitting still issues and was pulled from class in second grade
I "borrowed the neighbors cars with 3 other friends. My parents went over the top and paid for me to go to some wack job top of the line rehab for rich people place that permanently damaged me. I was locked in rooms for long periods.
I already smoked cigarettes and they of course would not let me smoke.......I would have to listen to people yap about wrecking their Corvettes on cocaine all freaking day then watch them smoke 4000 cigarettes in front of me........this was before they would lock us in our rooms at 5pm until the morning with noone to talk to, nobody tv to watch and no radio to listen to.

After all I have been thru there is no way I can sit there and listen to the things I already know are going on. I know the answers.....





I have a "theory" of a reason where the answer to your question lies because it is my own.
The flip side is that SSRI's cripple life insurance for life and so does seeing a psychotherapist in the first place. I can not afford the 800 dollars "cash after taxes" per month already (assuming I continued LExapro which ONLY helps with depression).

Kind of a "depressing" result, actually. I spend an enormous amount of time with depressed patients, often staying late, spending 45 to 60 min talking through problems, and using "psychotherapy". Kind of hard to swallow the fact that a pill works better?


Here is not the answer but why my personal anwer to yours is what it is and the reasons why are probably easy to start connecting the "blot" spots.

I am my own worst enemy.

I am a awesome Foreman but I am a horrible worker

I can boss aorund the work but I can not do it is a great one I would like the answer to.

I can smoke some pot and work all day long with some friends and not even take a break.
I can work 14 hours with barely any breaks.
Tell me I have to work from 8 am exactly to 5pm and it will be the hardest 8 hours (plus long one hour lunch) that I ever have to spend. It is torture.

I have a nail that has come up in my roof that has caused a small leak. It would take 15 minutes to fix. I have not fixed it in 3 months. It is raining right now and I could at least make the effort to go see how full the bowl setup is that is collecting water in the atttic. When it fills up it overflows on the sheetrock and is casuing more work withe the stains it is creating.
All I have to do is take the tar that is outside up on the roof when it isn't raining.


I have done all the talking, my brain is misfiring and needs the "correct"[u][s] medication to achieve this.


I was introduced to the stock market thru options because my friends were buying them in late 1999. I had worked very hard to save the money. Compulsion to the stock market started then......or is it obsession. I worked at the plants in the lab. I finished work in 3 hours and had 9 to sit around.
I made a killing and bought all kinds of stuff.

I bought a BMW M3.

I quit my job to trade full time

I lost everything and had to file bankruptcy.

Immediately before the market I had 0 debt, 2 roomates paying my house note AND utilities and my car was paid for......I had a savings account and checking account with plenty( to my eyes and situation only) cash and a 5000 stereo system with 60" big screen loaded with the works.
My computers were hooked up thru the bigscreen as well from my recliner chair homemade setup (ghetto style) and many other amentities......

It was a abd loss and it happened in a blink of an eye. Later I took a final stab to make up losses by buying calls on CA. We got some small copany bought out by CA with a (1 for 3 value instead). It was a mistake by the data saying it was Compute Assocaites instead of being the actual compnay (Silicone Software) it was........disclaimers on the site make them not responsible for their own data.

This is not fair. You can make such a massive leap with that thinking with a 2 sentence discalimer in micro print with light ink and get away with massively huritn peoples investing......nobody really thinks the data is actually going to be wrong......anyways, I bet the last of the wad and was destroyed when Jonathon Joseph I think downgraded the semis.....the bouce that never came took me out of the game....

I spent years studying technical analysis before I became good at it beyond what I saw out there 95% of the time. This 95% correlated with 95% of the people losing in the market.
It had nothing to do with stock picks but account sizes and availabilities and the ease of getting margin called after faking out trend lines.
Mostly, I just like drawing Geometry stuff........drawing only though. I have not ever read a book in the last decade......I spend countless hours on the market drawing charts....



The second part of my essay yapfest is hiden in the above paragraphs.

I vear off 6 ways at the same time and can not concentrate on one thing for any real length of period......at the same time I can swing trade(few trades a year) and crush the mutual funds......the difference in why I am not is because I am in the low stack of chips at the poker table. I am the huge underdog against my billionaire opponent scalping trades.
None of us have the ability to crank 1 million shares into the QQQQ at market.....not one single one of us.

This one sentence proves Mark Cuban is correct.
The stock market is a complete ponzi scheme.......the credit collapse will make home ownership to rent to the masses who just went bankrupt the only choice to make money.
All that I have gained was basically me being cheap, getting a 5k loan from my parents and bossing around roomates for years....

Skyrocket interest rates and old fokes will retire at 90 to never. The pebble in the pnd effect will of course cause the massive ripples but the ripples are not evenly distrbuted like water.