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#1 SilentOne

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:19 PM

Posted at my PM blog today.

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This will probably be a very unpopular post on this forum. But I have gained a lot of knowledge in the junior area through this board, so I feel obligated to share what I see from a market cycle point of view.

A couple of weeks ago I said:

December will be an extremely important month which will determine the trend for a good part of 2008.


And given the performance this week, I believe we have our answer. We have to now look at the monthly chart and decide what is likely ahead from a cycle point of view. The following chart is extremely busy but here are the important points to take home.

1) The USD made an 18 month low in November as predicted and this will cap the PM sector upside for months to come. I do not believe that the XAU will take out its high anytime soon.

2) The Hurst 4.5 and 9 year cycles for the XAU have topped and are now putting downward pressure on the XAU and PM stocks in general. This will be in force until the important major nest of lows (2008 - 2009?). A cursory look at NEM's performance confirms that it has started a long "C" wave decline off last month's top. NEM topped back in Jan. 2006 and I noted this from a cycle viewpoint in March 2006. It proved to be a warning shot for the sector. Other big cap stocks like GFI tell the same story.

3) Both XAU 4.5 year highs were right translated which is bullish long term. This means that as gold/PM stocks emerge from their next major cycle low (4.5/9 year lows), gold will begin a very strong rise.

4) This sector will now correct considerably in time and/or price. There is no valid reason for me to hold long term positions at this point in the cycle. Cash raised should be deployed in other markets until the next major low unfolds.

5) The XAU is now 7+ years along in its 9 year Hurst cycle. The last two such cycles lasted 6.5 and 8 years. Thus the XAU should now decline into whatever nest of lows lies ahead for the 4.5 and 9 year cycles.

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There is a chance that gold makes another attack on $900 - 1000 from a spring low into year end 2008. I see this as being a very remote possibility, certainly one I will not speculate on with positions of any size. This would come on the presumption that the 4.5 and 9 year nest of lows was made last summer (Aug. 2007). I see it as extremely unlikely, but possible if the world is heading into a hyperinflationary period from 2008 onward. The best strategy is now to wait for the coming low and conserve/ expand capital within other markets.

I sold my long term PM funds in early Nov. and I sold approx. 1/2 my gold and silver bullion at the same time. I'll hold the remainder of the bullion as a hedge and LT hold.

I project the next major low will come as early as 2008, but could extend to 2009, and that the next major high and selling point for gold will probably come in 2013. This is likely if we get a major nest of lows for the 4.5 & 9 year cycles in 2008 - 2009. It is much too early to say.

I hope with this analysis you obtain some perspective of the risk now involved with PMs in terms of time and price. The underperformance of NEM through 2006-2007 served as a warning that the bull cycle was tiring. The weak performance of the juniors since last winter has been the second warning.

I predict that by the time the XAU finds its next major cycle lows, the XAU will come down through its 50 month MA, which now stands about 120ish and is rising.

cheers,

john

Edited by SilentOne, 15 December 2007 - 07:26 PM.

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#2 Tor

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:26 PM

Thanks for sharing that John. I had gold and the stocks with a 5% chance of one last push up into q1 next year, beig the fifth leg up for this cycle. It does not seem to be happening. I am not adding and will let a number of my positions expire here or otherwise close them. good trading.
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#3 hare_bear

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:49 PM

awesome work john. :D

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 07:53 PM

A couple of weeks ago I said:

December will be an extremely important month which will determine the trend for a good part of 2008.


And given the performance this week, I believe we have our answer. .....

I predict that by the time the XAU finds its next major cycle lows, the XAU will come down through its 50 month MA, which now stands about 120ish and is rising.

cheers,

john


Thank you Sir!
clear and detailed, will save chart.

I bought well in june and oct 06- (no stocks) but under exposed waiting for next good entry.
Given exposure I have not sold any of the peaks.

Anyway, your thoughts probably are valuable to folks in various situations

Edited by jack, 15 December 2007 - 07:54 PM.


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Posted 15 December 2007 - 08:31 PM

Hello SilentOne. Thanks for the analysis. What is your opinion of Uranium in general, and EFR.TO in particular. They don't seem to be doing too well lately. Do you think it's worth holding onto? Thanks, Joe

#6 SilentOne

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 08:43 PM

voy,

I have traded the uraniums twice now since the Aug. lows. I gave up on the sector just before the FED rate decision last week and closed the last positions the day after the rate decision. The price action since is not encouraging and I think this is in sympathy with the commodity space which is taking a good hit.

Here is an excellent guy to track on the sector. Just one look at his uranium index and the chart of Cameco gives me pause. This sector may see a rally from next year, but I am not sure from what level now.

Merv on Uranium

PS. There are very few uranium stock indices around that one can track.

cheers,

john
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#7 dougie

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 10:44 PM

thanks John worthy perspective noting much to be too bullish on here though gold itself is still in a bull market by all measures and a strong dollar certainly doesnt negate a strong gold market; though goldbugs like to think otherwise

#8 Tor

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 06:00 AM

thanks John
worthy perspective
noting much to be too bullish on here though gold itself is still in a bull market by all measures and a strong dollar certainly doesnt negate a strong gold market; though goldbugs like to think otherwise


every time the dollar seems to go up, the gold goes down. it seems that dollar is heading up for now, of course this can reverse.
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 09:03 AM

John, Excellent work. Thanks for the post. UBW

#10 dougie

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:02 PM

every time the dollar goes up gold goes down: you might want to look at some charts of the past beyond the recent past