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#31 Rich C

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 12:15 PM

Second quarter GDP came in at 4.2% on the second estimate in late Aug.  The Fed meets next week and is expected to raise the funds rate 1/4%, but the market is expecting it so I don't think there will be much reaction.  Market valuation climbed a bit in Sept., with the 12 month trailing GAAP S&P 500 P/E up to 23.7 because Q2 earnings have been set for a while and the market has rallied a little.  23.7 is moderately overvalued relative to my 30 year trimmed average of 19.  Earnings are expected to be up 20% YoY for Q3, with about half of that coming from the tax cut.  Geo-politically the major risk is the trade wars, particularly with China.  The tariffs are hurting some companies significantly, but apparently not the majority of US businesses.  Price action is flat for Sept, but remains solidly within the up channel it has been in for most of the last decade.

 

Conclusion: The long term bull market continues. 

 

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#32 Rich C

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Posted 17 October 2018 - 10:30 AM

The third estimate of Q2 GDP remained at +4.2%, and the Oct. 12 GDPNow estimate for Q3 GDP is 4.0%, so no recession in sight.  The Fed raised rates by 1/4% at their Sept. meeting to 2.1%, and the long end of the yield curve moved up a little more than most expected, which triggered a correction.  This seems typical for late expansions, the Fed raises and eventually someone notices.  At this point, the market usually corrects, then realizes this level of rates is not a long term threat to the market, that will come later after more hikes (the Fed is hiking very slow, only 1/4 point at a time, in the past they have gone 1/2 point and from a higher base).  The trailing 12 month GAAP PE fell from 23.7 to 22.2, based on the market correction, and relative to my 30 year trimmed average of 19.  The administration has struck a deal with Mexico and Canada, the USMCA, and while it probably won't drive GDP, getting the uncertainty out of the way is a plus in the short term.

 

The housing market is weak right now.  Thirty year fixed mortgages are up to 5%, and while that is not historically high, home prices have inflated faster than wages, so the combination of 5% mortgage and rising rates, with higher prices is going to start disqualifying more and more buyers.  If you need to sell your house, and you can't make rates come down, you will have to drop the price on your house.  Will the slowdown in housing spread to the broader economy? 

 

Conclusion:  The long term bull market continues, but a few concerns are out there.


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#33 Rich C

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 12:56 PM

It's that time of the month, to take a look at things.  Earnings season has gone very well, with S&P earnings up 25% over last year.  With the drop on stock prices, this has taken the trailing 12 month GAAP P/E down to 20.8 from 22.2 last month, relative to my 30 year trimmed average of 19.  Interest rates rose a bit after the Sept. hike, but with the stock market correction rates have returned to their Sept. levels on the longer end of the yield curve.  Technically, on the long term chart, RSI has fallen from overbought to neutral, MACD has headed down, and price remains in the long term channel it has been in for the last seven years.  Geo-politically, the major issue is our trade dispute with China, which causes real pain in certain industries domestically.  The rising interest rate environment has slowed housing.  We've had 5% mortgages before, even 8% and 10% mortgages, but we have not had those rates when the median home price was $320K.  Home prices can inflate at a more rapid rate than the general economy as long as rates remain ridiculously low, but when they rise sufficiently, that creates a problem in housing.

 

I conclude that the long term bull market continues, but risks are rising.


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