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#11 *JB*

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 01:49 PM

"I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

In another, Jones and Mann discuss how they can pressure an academic journal not to accept the work of climate skeptics with whom they disagree. "Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal," Mann writes.

"I will be emailing the journal to tell them I'm having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor," Jones replies.

Patrick Michaels, a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute who comes under fire in the e-mails, said these same academics repeatedly criticized him for not having published more peer-reviewed papers.

"There's an egregious problem here, their intimidation of journal editors," he said. "They're saying, 'If you print anything by this group, we won't send you any papers.' "


rameshutt, and others --

People need to get this one major point -- THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPLYING THE "SCIENCE" TO THE UN WORLD BODY ON CLIMATE....the IPCC.

There as many as 3,000 e-mails between them with statements like this, but the quotes alone above tell a story that should scare the begeezus out of anyone who knows the stakes.

If efforts by those that have the power to determine the conclusions is a fraud, then the whole process is a fraud!!!

If the UN and the Europeans get their way, we are talking about a potential acceleration of the collapse of the US economy -- a STATED GOAL BY SEVERAL EU AND UN OFFICIALS. This is BESIDE the collapse that's in progress right now...ALL BASED ON POLITICS, not science.

When you place your trust in so called "Scientists" who are working actively to keep opposing scientific views out, your looking at a major fraud that WILL be catastrophic if they are allowed to control what will be done. I believe they "Believe", but that is NOT what science and policy MUST be about.

It must be about FACTS, data and conclusions tested by fire, especially with what is at stake.

We MUST have sources that are trustworthy, and know who they are...not just those who support one's "beliefs". The information put out by Real Climate is controlled by the same people who WROTE THESE E-MAILS!!!!!

Edited by *JB*, 23 November 2009 - 01:55 PM.

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Posted 23 November 2009 - 07:44 PM

I don't think there is any point in posting the facts.
The true believers only need faith.
After all, they are "saving" the world. (Sounds religious) :yes:
Besides, those e-mails are out of context, or haven't you heard. ;)


In the meantime, Galileo and I will secretly discuss facts:

ClimateGate reveals 'questionable scientific practices' by UN scientists...

The emails include discussions of apparent efforts to make sure that reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a United Nations group that monitors climate science, include their own views and exclude others. In addition, emails show that climate scientists declined to make their data available to scientists whose views they disagreed with.

The IPCC couldn't be reached for comment Sunday.

Phil Jones, the director of the East Anglia climate center, suggested that skeptics' research was unwelcome: We "will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"


Neither man could be reached for comment Sunday.

Caught like the rats they are!




This will no doubt be the greatest "scientific" hoax since the Piltdown Man.

"The Piltdown hoax is perhaps the most famous paleontological hoax in history. It has been prominent for two reasons: the attention paid to the issue of human evolution, and the length of time (more than 40 years) that elapsed from its discovery to its full exposure as a forgery."

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 November 2009 - 07:49 PM.


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Posted 23 November 2009 - 09:54 PM

Call for Congressional investigation into ClimateGate...

Senator Inhofe: 4 years ago, in talking about the science, cooking the science. I said I would discuss the "systematic and documented abuse of the scientific process by which an international body that claims it provides the most complete and objective science assessment in the world on the subject of climate change, the United Nations IPCC."

Melanie Morgan: Yea, you deserve an an 'atta boy, and now you are finally being vindicated.

Senator Inhofe: Well, on this thing, it is pretty serious. If nothing happens in the next seven days when we go back into session a week from today that would change this situation, I will call for an investigation. 'Cause this thing is serious, you think about the literally millions of dollars that have been thrown away on some of this stuff that they came out with.

Melanie Morgan: So what will you be calling for an investigation of?

Senator Inhofe: On the IPCC and on the United Nations on the way that they cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not.

Jed Babbin: Should somebody stop further spending on this until we get this investigation, Senator?

Senator Inhofe: Well, I don't know how you do that, though, 'cause we're not the ones that are calling the shots. The interesting part of this is it's happening right before Copenhagen. And, so, the timing couldn't be better. Whoever is on the ball in Great Britain, their timing was good.


Edited by Rogerdodger, 23 November 2009 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 24 November 2009 - 09:19 AM

The information put out by Real Climate is controlled by the same people who WROTE THESE E-MAILS!!!!!


It's worse than that, John. RealClimate isn't even controlled by scientists but by political lobbyists and marketers. They are simply not a credible source of anything. They're just a poisoned well pretending to be "the place" for "Climate Science". They're most certainly NOT.

It's no wonder that many of the folks referred to in the hacked data like the site and contribute, but the site is even less scientific and more propaganda than even you think.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 06:29 AM

CEI Files Notice of Intent to Sue NASA

CEI sought the following documents, among others, NASA's failure to provide which within thirty days will prompt CEI to file suit in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia:

- internal discussions about NASA's quiet correction of its false historical U.S. temperature records after two Canadian researchers discovered a key statistical error, specifically discussion about whether and why to correct certain records, how to do so, the impact or wisdom or potential (or real) fallout therefrom or reaction to doing so (requested August 2007);

- internal discussions relating to the emails sent to James Hansen and/or Reto A. Ruedy from Canadian statistician Steve McIntyre calling their attention to the errors in NASA/GISS online temperature data (August 2007);

- those relating to the content, importance or propriety of workday-hour posts or entries by GISS/NASA employee Gavin A. Schmidt on the weblog or "blog" RealClimate, which is owned by the advocacy Environmental Media Services and was started as an effort to defend the debunked "Hockey Stick" that is so central to the CRU files. RealClimate.org is implicated in the leaked files, expressly offered as a tool to be used "in any way you think would be helpful" to a certain advocacy campaign, including an assertion of Schmidt's active involvement in, e.g., delaying and/or screening out unhelpful input by "skeptics" attempting to comment on claims made on the website.

This and the related political activism engaged in are inappropriate behavior for a taxpayer-funded employee, particularly on taxpayer time. These documents were requested in January 2007 and NASA/GISS have refused to date to comply with their legal obligation to produce responsive documents.

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Posted 25 November 2009 - 09:23 AM

A parody of "Draggin the Line" by Tommy James and the Shondells about Climategate
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Posted 27 November 2009 - 05:11 PM

From the comments section of sciencemag blog

Yes the emails are a big problem. But the real problem is in the other files attched to this 61 MB file, the code in particular. There are frank and explicit discussions of the way that the data was forced into agreement with the models. "Fudge factors" were applied to the data to get rid of data that failed to agree with the AGW theory.
This is all set out in comments in the code placed by one or more of the programmers who seems to be a prime canidate for the position of leaker.
These demonstrate pure and simple fabrication. That is the real reason that these people fought for years to prevent the code and data from being publicly released.


We are on the brink of consigning our futures to global elites who have no problem buying the science they want. The Copenhagen Climate treay openly calls for global government justified on the basis of this kind abused science. If the people behind the political gambit are callous enough to manipulate the academy, aren't we justified in suspecting their motives? They aren't likely to give up should Copenhagen fail.

The travesty is that they were peer-reviewing each other's work! They had control of their own process. It was a closed-loop system comprised of several dozen researchers in an incestuous, self-affirming academic relationship.


With carefully crafted (biased) "statistic" methods it is entirely possible to make data look as damning as you want. It certainly is possible to make it smell like real science while it is not. This is difficult to disprove, especially if no one has access to the raw data to do their own math. All I can hope is that we have learnt from this epic fail. Scientific data and methods MUST be open to peer review, or it may not be trusted at all.

Actually, this ridiculous trend of secrecy has been in this field from the beginning, starting with Michael Mann, whose research (hockey stick curve) has been under fire for decades and whose methods and raw data still haven't been released. In hindsight, that should have tipped us off.

At this point any talks of any kind of legislation on CO2 should be aborted.
The debate was supposedly over even before it began. It reeked of fraud since the beginning, and I for one will not let lying politicians loot the economy on bogus science.
If you have any ounce of decency in you, on whichever side you are, you will demand that any legislation be postponed until an open and public debate actually happens, and the proof be made that if trillions of dollars will be sucked into a phony carbon credit ponzi scheme.

Yesterday I spent 15 minutes reading (the first very small bit of) the Harry_Read_Me.txt file. It's been over 40 years since I wrote FORTRAN and didn't realize FORTRAN compilers still existed.
The sense that one develops without knowing any computer language is that the effort described is a total hack and a poor one at that. Renaming variables to get a clean compile, manipulating data to get results that would seem reasonable, substituting files to satisfy an arcane file-naming convention employed in the program, a litany of frustration to make undocumented and impenetrable code produce any kind of a number that might be deemed acceptable,... If this is a basis for CRU's research and findings, the unit should be shut down, the academics involved should be fired in disgrace, or barring that, at least be required to take undergraduate courses in proper scientific research methodology.
Not only has the Nobel prize for peace been tarnished by naming Gore and the IPCC, but the whole field of climate science is on the verge of being discredited.


There is no question this is a terrible scandal. The CRU cabal have committed serious crimes against science in general and climate science in particular.
The emails show they have punished any effort at independent thought, driven journal editors from their job, stifled the publication of skeptic papers, excluded peer-reviewed papers from consideration in IPCC's AR4 and fudged data to meet certain goals.
What is to be done to make amends for these crimes? Is James Saiers going to be offered his job back as editor of GRL? Is Science Mag willing to be more proactive in the publication of skeptic's papers?
Science is supposed to be self-correcting. It cannot be if the corrections are excluded because of confirmation bias, group think and outside pressure from the CRU cabal.
It seems to me Science Mag should issue gold embossed invitations to Steve McIntyre, Roger Pielke, John Christy, Roy Spencer, Anthony Watts, Craig Loehle and Richard Lindzen to publish any paper they feel was unjustly rejected or needs to be published.
It would also be helpful if Science editors would welcome and publish stories by people who were pressured by the cabal. We need to understand how they did what they did so it will never happen again.
Science is not supposed to be a consensus.


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Posted 29 November 2009 - 02:24 PM

The information put out by Real Climate is controlled by the same people who WROTE THESE E-MAILS!!!!!


It's worse than that, John. RealClimate isn't even controlled by scientists but by political lobbyists and marketers. They are simply not a credible source of anything. They're just a poisoned well pretending to be "the place" for "Climate Science". They're most certainly NOT.

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I had help, but we tracked down the people behind the web site.

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About Environmental Media Services: = (Interesting Read!)
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Here is the ZoomInfo on Betsy:

# Betsy Ensley, Web Editor/Program Coordinator: Betsy joined the staff of EMS in April 2002 as a program assistant for EMS’s toxics program. She managed BushGreenwatch.org, a joint EMS-MoveOn.org public awareness website, and coordinates environmental community media efforts to protect and improve environmental and public health safeguards.

It looks like part of Betsy’s salary is paid by MoveOn.org who is funded by George Soros

IOW -- George Soros funds MoveOn --- MoveOn funds RealClimate.Org.
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