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#1 SilentOne

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Posted 14 June 2004 - 04:39 PM

Looks that way. Bad day for PMs today. Check my Elliott post recently. We have taken out key levels on the gold indices and gold is barely hanging on to $383 level. Trading this sector only now. cheers, john
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Posted 14 June 2004 - 06:02 PM

from the another post, I am thinking about going long tomorrow as the xau/hui is ST oversold and may be due for a bounce. will see the how indexes behave tomorrow. SBC.

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Posted 14 June 2004 - 10:23 PM

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another stream of thought is to see what happens with Fed...I think if he raises only .25 (or less)....that might make for a long entry?

kinda of sell the rumour buy the news headspace.

would like to see yield spreads change direction and China may be a problem most people aren't considering


link above has some charts that may be of interest
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Posted 14 June 2004 - 11:41 PM

Thanks for the link, TomD. I noticed that you're using TYX/IRX. Steve Saville uses both TYX/IRX and TYX-IRX. I use TYX-IRX for my gold signals but the TYX-IRX ratio been out of sync much of this year since mid January. Wondered if you ever used TYX-IRX? It almost gets the same ratio as TYX/IRX but it still haven't completely broken down yet on its chart pattern (which is why it's out of sync with the breakdown of gold.) SBC.

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Posted 15 June 2004 - 12:32 AM

No I don't..indeed I am not quite sure what it is...is there a way of getting on stockcharts? From what I understand Saville is still bullish on the sector and I have a lot of time for his work From what I have read the yield spread is more accurate for looking at stocks vice bullion itself hmmm...looking at the golds again...you know I would love to see some panic selling going into the Fed announcement.....I cannot beleive he will raise more than .25 and I think the market has "whisper" number of .5 the yield spreads and the dhina chart were horrible today...so I am leaning on the cautious side...the fact that gold was down even with USD down does not pass the sniff test either. but when I look at the pattern and the way the stochastics are lining up...it sure looks like it has at least a C leg up...but that is EWA...and I never base a trade on that like you I will be watching too
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 04:49 AM

There will be trading opportunities in this sector, but buy and hold is not on for me right now. The one thing I look at is the MACD weekly. It started to turn in May, then rolled.

http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SharpChartv05.ServletDriver?chart=$hui,uu[h,a]waclyyay[df][pb50!b200][vc60][iub14!la12,26,9]&r=9280.gif

The Euro looks like it is in a bear flag and ready to drop out of its 3 year channel. If this happens, PM selling will accelerate IMO.

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cheers,

john
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 09:00 AM

No I don't..indeed I am not quite sure what it is...is there a way of getting on stockcharts?

I meant the yield spread, it's charted as ($TYX / $IRX) as shown on your chart at your website. Steve had used ($TYX - $IRX) in addition to the $TYX/$IRX. Just wondered if you tried that way before (the former divides $TYX by $IRX... whereas the latter $TYX is subtracted by $IRX.) Apparently you had not. Thanks, SBC.