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Sandy was officially a Tropical Storm

Although Sandy was designated a hurricane for the majority of time it traveled up the coast, it failed to sustain hurricane-force winds at landfall, so it was officially a tropical storm.

That means homeowners in Connecticut, New Jersey, New York and Maryland won't be on the hook for costly hurricane deductibles, and state officials are putting insurers on notice.

Under New Jersey law, hurricane deductibles kick in if two requirements are met: The storm is classified as a hurricane by the National Weather Service when it strikes the state, and it also has sustained winds of 74 mph while inland. "In this case, it was downgraded before it hit land here, so we didn't even have to get into the wind part of it," says Rogan.


http://money.msn.com...17-392fcb0bae16

[salsabob]

Some are getting it -



- it's not really a matter of innate intelligence as much as it is a matter of emotional intelligence. About half the adult population has not grown out of adolescence - which, by the way, explains a lot of things.

[diogenes227]

Been wondering if the Martians are at least beginning to wonder about these extreme weather events. Oops, forgot -- the Martians are done denying climate change.

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The Science is Really, Really Settled - NOAA Data Confirms Hurricane Sandy Was Not A Result Of Ocean Global Warming, nor CO2

Sandy was a typical weather event that naturally occurs

The NCDC (an agency of NOAA) publishes global ocean temperature records, which confirm that global warming of the oceans did not cause Sandy - in fact, their most recent temperature measurements reveal that ocean temperatures have actually remained flat over last 15 years (thru September 2012), while CO2 levels have increased


http://www.c3headlin...ng-nor-co2.html

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Regression to the Mean - Many Hurricanes are Coming, and Soon

While it's hardly mentioned in the media, the U.S. is currently in an extended and intense hurricane "drought." The last Category 3 or stronger storm to make landfall was Wilma in 2005. The more than seven years since then is the longest such span in over a century.

Watch Bette Midler blame Global Warming when hurricane events regress to the mean.

This historic storm Sandy should remind us that planet Earth is a dangerous place, where extreme events are commonplace and disasters are to be expected. In the proper context, Sandy is less an example of how bad things can get than a reminder that they could be much worse.

In studying hurricanes, we can make rough comparisons over time by adjusting past losses to account for inflation and the growth of coastal communities. If Sandy causes $20 billion in damage (in 2012 dollars), it would rank as the 17th most damaging hurricane or tropical storm (out of 242) to hit the U.S. since 1900—a significant event, but not close to the top 10.


http://rogerpielkejr...iscussions.html

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Bloomberg Blames CO2 For His Incompetence

There were a great many institutional failures that made Sandy worse than it had to be. In retrospect, Mayor Bloomberg should perhaps have been worried more about the readiness of the city’s hospitals than the salt content of its snack foods.

His obsession with Big Gulps, in the context of this destruction, is both hilarious and horrifying. Perhaps there was nothing that could have been done to prevent the flooding of the tunnels and the collapse of the electrical supply, but surely a great deal of capital and energy that were directed toward trivial pursuits good for very little other than generating headlines would have been better deployed toward the unglamorous but necessary work of ensuring that low-lying coastal cities are sufficiently inured to the threats posed by hurricanes and other common, inevitable events. New York City is many things: over-engineered against hurricanes is not one of them.



http://www.nationalr...gs/print/332382

[voltaire]

New report coming.

http://www.smh.com.a...1106-28w5c.html

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Anyone who thinks that Global Warming caused Hurricane Sandy should be laughed at and ridiculed.

ie, Al Gore, Michael Bloomberg, Bette Midler, Barbara Streisand


IPCC Forced To Backtrack On Bogus Claims That Global Warming Causes Severe Weather

The green-fundamentalists of IPCC climate "science" tried their best to frighten liberal/left politicians and Hollywood celebrities with stories of catastrophic global warming and severe weather calamities but are now seriously backtracking - the latest IPCC 'AR5' report determines that the empirical evidence does not support their hysterical hypothesis of CO2-induced extreme climate change disasters

http://www.c3headlin...re-weather.html


Bill Clinton has called Berkeley scientist Dr. Richard Muller as “a hero of mine."

How do you explain Hurricane Sandy? Some scientists say it was exacerbated by climate change? Warmer oceans, more evaporation? Higher sea level swells?

Muller: None of the above. Hurricane Sandy was a freak storm that happened because a relatively small hurricane (it wasn’t even a category 1 storm when it hit New York City) veered towards the coast during a very high tide. None of the causes of the damage can be attributed in a scientific manner to climate change.

The word “scientific” in that last sentence is very important. Many of the critics of the skeptics claimed that the skeptics were not being scientific. Yet that is also true of the alarmists. There is an unfortunate tendency, when the issue is very important (as in climate change) to abandon science and work from gut feelings. No, that is a mistake; when the issue is important, then it is most urgent that we stick to our science! We must be objective!

Hurricane Sandy cannot be attributed to global warming. The rise over the oceans, in the last 50 years, has been about 0.5 degree C. That’s tiny! In those 50 years, sea level rose by 4 inches. So the high tide, if not for global warming, would not have been 14 feet but “only” 13 feet 8 inches. There was a similarly severe storm in 1938 (my parents lived through it out on Long Island). We should stop attributing all freak storms to climate change. This is an important issue, so let’s emphasize the science.


http://www.freshdial...richard-muller/

Edited by stocks, 17 December 2012 - 06:52 AM.

[salsabob]

Anyone who thinks that Global Warming caused Hurricane Sandy should be laughed at and ridiculed.

ie, Al Gore, Michael Bloomberg, Bette Midler, Barbara Streisand


IPCC Forced To Backtrack On Bogus Claims That Global Warming Causes Severe Weather

The green-fundamentalists of IPCC climate "science" tried their best to frighten liberal/left politicians and Hollywood celebrities with stories of catastrophic global warming and severe weather calamities but are now seriously backtracking - the latest IPCC 'AR5' report determines that the empirical evidence does not support their hysterical hypothesis of CO2-induced extreme climate change disasters

http://www.c3headlin...re-weather.html


Bill Clinton has called Berkeley scientist Dr. Richard Muller as “a hero of mine."

How do you explain Hurricane Sandy? Some scientists say it was exacerbated by climate change? Warmer oceans, more evaporation? Higher sea level swells?

Muller: None of the above. Hurricane Sandy was a freak storm that happened because a relatively small hurricane (it wasn’t even a category 1 storm when it hit New York City) veered towards the coast during a very high tide. None of the causes of the damage can be attributed in a scientific manner to climate change.

The word “scientific” in that last sentence is very important. Many of the critics of the skeptics claimed that the skeptics were not being scientific. Yet that is also true of the alarmists. There is an unfortunate tendency, when the issue is very important (as in climate change) to abandon science and work from gut feelings. No, that is a mistake; when the issue is important, then it is most urgent that we stick to our science! We must be objective!

Hurricane Sandy cannot be attributed to global warming. The rise over the oceans, in the last 50 years, has been about 0.5 degree C. That’s tiny! In those 50 years, sea level rose by 4 inches. So the high tide, if not for global warming, would not have been 14 feet but “only” 13 feet 8 inches. There was a similarly severe storm in 1938 (my parents lived through it out on Long Island). We should stop attributing all freak storms to climate change. This is an important issue, so let’s emphasize the science.


http://www.freshdial...richard-muller/

Speaking of Dr. Muller, let's not forget this summary thread -

http://www.traders-t...?...st&p=619326

There are several threads under this sub-forum that deal with Climate Change, nearly exclusively from the skeptics’ point of view. It use to be confined to the "Decade of cooler Temperatures" thread but that peter-out with my reporting there on the findings of Richard Muller, a Berkeley physicist and self-proclaimed climate skeptic, Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature (BEST) effort that clearly shows the climate has been warming

More at the link.

I guess now that global warming is no longer an issue, some skeptics are trying to convince us that the warming doesn't matter. C' est la vie

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Global climate change scientists predicted that the weather would get wilder with much more "events".

Yes, I hear you say, it happened before and will again.

Here's a suggestion.

Let's start counting the extreme events.

Oh, it's not man made, just natural change.

So what will convince you?

Absolutely nothing!

That's the beauty about irrationalism.

You can maintain it until oblivion.

Anyone who thinks that Global Warming caused Hurricane Sandy should be laughed at and ridiculed.

ie, Al Gore, Michael Bloomberg, Bette Midler, Barbara Streisand

IPCC Forced To Backtrack On Bogus Claims That Global Warming Causes Severe Weather

The green-fundamentalists of IPCC climate "science" tried their best to frighten liberal/left politicians and Hollywood celebrities with stories of catastrophic global warming and severe weather calamities but are now seriously backtracking - the latest IPCC 'AR5' report determines that the empirical evidence does not support their hysterical hypothesis of CO2-induced extreme climate change disasters

http://www.c3headlin...re-weather.html


Bill Clinton has called Berkeley scientist Dr. Richard Muller as “a hero of mine."

How do you explain Hurricane Sandy? Some scientists say it was exacerbated by climate change? Warmer oceans, more evaporation? Higher sea level swells?

Muller: None of the above. Hurricane Sandy was a freak storm that happened because a relatively small hurricane (it wasn’t even a category 1 storm when it hit New York City) veered towards the coast during a very high tide. None of the causes of the damage can be attributed in a scientific manner to climate change.

The word “scientific” in that last sentence is very important. Many of the critics of the skeptics claimed that the skeptics were not being scientific. Yet that is also true of the alarmists. There is an unfortunate tendency, when the issue is very important (as in climate change) to abandon science and work from gut feelings. No, that is a mistake; when the issue is important, then it is most urgent that we stick to our science! We must be objective!

Hurricane Sandy cannot be attributed to global warming. The rise over the oceans, in the last 50 years, has been about 0.5 degree C. That’s tiny! In those 50 years, sea level rose by 4 inches. So the high tide, if not for global warming, would not have been 14 feet but “only” 13 feet 8 inches. There was a similarly severe storm in 1938 (my parents lived through it out on Long Island). We should stop attributing all freak storms to climate change. This is an important issue, so let’s emphasize the science.


http://www.freshdial...richard-muller/