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[Rogerdodger]

Famed Baltimore neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin Carson addressed the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday morning on healthcare. Dr. Carson often criticized Obamacare and government intrusion in healthcare while President Obama sat in the audience. Dr. Carson encouraged a program where newborn babies are given health savings account as an alternative to Obamacare.

DR. CARSON's 43 second health care plan:

Here's my solution: When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account to which money can be contributed -- pretax -- from the time you're born 'til the time you die. When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you're 85 years old and you got six diseases, you're not trying to spend up everything. You're happy to pass it on and there's nobody talking about death panels.

Number one. And also, for the people who were indigent who don't have any money we can make contributions to their HSA each month because we already have this huge pot of money. Instead of sending it to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care."

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Edited by Rogerdodger, 08 February 2013 - 07:33 PM.

[Rogerdodger]

It seems like the free market and experts are much better health care problem solvers than micro-managing government bureaucrats.

Amazing iPhone real-time medical tests:

"I'm prescribing a lot more Apps than prescriptions."

http://www.nbcnews.c...582822#50582822

Edited by Rogerdodger, 08 February 2013 - 07:58 PM.

[colion]

It appears that Obama endorsed Carson's views on everything from healthcare to taxes

Carson for President

Edited by colion, 10 February 2013 - 01:47 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

I guess this wasn't so well thought out after all:

Funding is running low for health insurance in state high risk pools

By N.C. Aizenman, Friday, February 15, 3:10 PM

Tens of thousands of Americans who can’t get health insurance due to pre-existing medical problems will be blocked from a program designed to help them because funding for the measure is running low.

Obama administration officials said Friday that the state-based “high risk pools” set up under the 2010 health-care law will be closed to new applicants as soon as Saturday and no later than March 2, depending on the state.
Initial fears that as many as 375,000 sick people would swamp the pools and bankrupt them by 2012 did not pan out. This is largely because, even with premiums comparable to those charged to healthy people, the plans sold through the pools are often expensive.

But it was also because the pools are only open to people who have gone without insurance for at least six months. The result is that only about 135,000 people have gotten coverage at some point but they are proving far more costly to insure than predicted, Cohen said.
Many go untreated while they are uninsured, exacerbating their medical problems. When they finally do get covered through a high-risk pool they are in immediate need of expensive care.
“What we’ve really learned through the course of this program is that this is really not a sensible way for the health-care system to be run,” Cohen said.

Of the original $5 billion, only about $2.36 billion remains for the final three quarters of 2013 — enough only to continue coverage for those already in the pools, according to administration estimates.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 15 February 2013 - 06:44 PM.

[voltaire]

Famed Baltimore neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin Carson addressed the National Prayer Breakfast on Thursday morning on healthcare. Dr. Carson often criticized Obamacare and government intrusion in healthcare while President Obama sat in the audience. Dr. Carson encouraged a program where newborn babies are given health savings account as an alternative to Obamacare.

DR. CARSON's 43 second health care plan:

Here's my solution: When a person is born, give him a birth certificate, an electronic medical record, and a health savings account to which money can be contributed -- pretax -- from the time you're born 'til the time you die. When you die, you can pass it on to your family members, so that when you're 85 years old and you got six diseases, you're not trying to spend up everything. You're happy to pass it on and there's nobody talking about death panels.

Number one. And also, for the people who were indigent who don't have any money we can make contributions to their HSA each month because we already have this huge pot of money. Instead of sending it to some bureaucracy, let's put it in their HSAs. Now they have some control over their own health care."

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[AChartist]

Deathcare is a continuation of patriot act when you learn about the expansion of irs into banking and retirement accounts through deathcare. Probably it was phase II on the shelf by the same authors for that long, setting up for the dialectic to take down the other moron conservative 40% majority appropriate for the 1st phase, and then bring in the appropriate moron 40% liberal majority appropriate for the whole package . Thus fully 80% of humans are terrorized by the central control demonocracy planners. The liberal response is that this man was innapropriate to invoke ******* at a prayer breakfast, therefore dismissed not politically correct to speak of a factual nature.

[Rogerdodger]

"Slow down. You are getting too much work done."

Those were the orders given last week to a friend at his new government job.
After working for years in the private sector mental health field, he was hired by a government agency.
He says that considering the benefits and pay which are at least double of what he made in the private sector and potential early retirement which will allow him to get another job plus his retirement pay, he is now set for life.

He sees that his biggest problem now will be slowing down to government speed.

Now my (our) healthcare costs and taxes are skyrocketing to pay for his new lifestyle as a throttled down government "worker." (Who's the slave?)

"the “medical cost trend,” a key industry measure, will climb between 6 and 12 percent this year — higher than last year’s cost bump and more than double the 3.6 percent increase set as a target in a state law passed last year."

But he reassured me recently: "You're going to love FREE HEALTH CARE!"

Federal spending as a share of GDP will grow by more than 40 percent by the year 2085. Rising health entitlements will account for every penny of that increase!
With projected federal spending topping 34 percent of GDP and the known politically acceptable levels of federal tax revenues falling below 20 percent of GDP, we are between the proverbial rock and a hard place.
http://www.forbes.co...ng-out-defense/

http://companyprofiles.healthcare.gov/

Edited by Rogerdodger, 17 February 2013 - 11:51 AM.

[Rogerdodger]

43 second health care plan or 2,700 pages of vague and onerous regulations at the discretion of "the Secretary"?

It took the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) 159 pages to explain one new Obamacare tax on investments

Guess they didn't think it through too well!

According to a new projection from the Congressional Budget Office, as many as seven million Americans will be dropped from employer health care coverage because of Obamacare. That’s about twice what was previously estimated — and we can expect that number to keep increasing. So the critics were right: Millions of Americans won’t be keeping their own doctors or health care plans under Obamacare.

Enacting such sweeping and ill-considered legislation over the objections of a majority of Americans is about to run head-on into the reality. Twenty-five governors have flat-out refused to create health care exchanges in their states, and enrolling millions of people in exchanges run by the federal government will be enormously challenging and expensive.
Enacting such sweeping and ill-considered legislation over the objections of a majority of Americans is about to run head-on into the reality of Obamacare’s implementation.
Twenty-five governors have flat-out refused to create health care exchanges in their states, and enrolling millions of people in exchanges run by the federal government will be enormously challenging and expensive.
It’s not even clear that the federal government has the authority to disburse subsidies to — or impose tax penalties on — people who purchase insurance in federal exchanges.

Edited by Rogerdodger, 19 February 2013 - 03:14 PM.

[Rogerdodger]

I guess this was not all that well thought out. Or was it?

"I don't think we are going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately."

Universal to drop health insurance for part-time workers
Universal Orlando plans to stop offering medical insurance to part-time employees beginning next year, a move the resort says has been forced by the federal government's health-care overhaul.
The giant theme-park resort, which generates more than $1 billion in annual revenue, began informing employees this month that it will offer health-insurance to part-timers "only until December 31, 2013."
The reason: Universal currently offers part-time workers a limited insurance plan that has low premiums but also caps the payout of benefits. For instance, Universal's plan costs about $18 a week for employee-only coverage but covers only a maximum of $5,000 a year toward hospital stays. There are similar caps for other services.
Those types of insurance plans — sometimes referred to as "mini-med" plans — will no longer be permitted under the federal Affordable Care Act. Beginning in 2014, the law will prohibit insurance plans that impose annual monetary limits on essential medical care such, as hospitalization, or on overall spending.
Universal is one of the largest employers in Central Florida, with approximately 17,000 employees. It has thousands of part-time workers, though Universal said only about 500 of them are enrolled in the current insurance plan, as many part-timers are covered by a parent's or spouse's insurance.
http://www.orlandose...0,4887679.story


Single payer was the plan all along: "We may not get there immediately. First we have to take back the White House."
"I don't think we are going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately."

Edited by Rogerdodger, 20 February 2013 - 04:13 PM.

[Rogerdodger]

"Slow down. You are getting too much work done."
Those were the orders given last week to a friend at his new government (health care) job.

I saw my friend last night.
He was so excited! He just got his Union card.

Could it be... that's what all of this is about: Union Dues funneled back?

Edited by Rogerdodger, 20 February 2013 - 04:53 PM.