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#71 dougie

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

My Macro Credit thesis holds – and there is ample fundamental support for – the view that we’re now five years into history’s greatest global Bubble.

So your thesis then holds that bubbles pop?
But the timing, oh the timing...


its a tendency of the mind to want to have a scenario in mind, and hope the market conforms to that scenario. what i do know is escalating debt causes all kinds of problems. this is what brought me to gold. corrections are part of the process. @this point in time the gold market has been @or close to backwardation=shortage of supply. this will keep a floor under gold as long as that market situation exists. the sentiment in the market is quite bearish, which is what major corrections are supposed to accomplish. from a gann point of view the anniversary date for the 60yr cycle was 10/9/13. does this mean the market cannot make new lows, of course not. it means that we are in a window of bottoming, and the gold/commodity markets appear to be doing just that. bottoms and tops are process' . pick your spots wisely, its never a time to chase or buy when the market is up substantially. @1430s it drew people back into the gold market , right when this correction began. i read everyone, and it seems there are many opinions when the low will occur. i will throw mine out there. the june lows occurred w/sentiment @suicidal levels, the market was way oversold. this low occurred after several periods of capitulation in the market. was this enough! i believe it was. but, i have not bet the ranch . i buy when favs get taken to the cleaners. as happens in this market. everything that has happened over the last years , will happen again only in spades. when the arab world nationalized their oil holdings, and kicked the majors out, it was a wake up call. in a cash starved world these kind of events will happen again. armstrong is not always right on the markets. obviously he got himself into trouble. BUT i think his ideas on the future of the world, @times is very inciteful. of course the dean harry shultz foresaw all of this and wrote extensively about it in the 90s. there was a reason his letter was pricey. he was that good.
watching hollande in france, he is not popular , but is a socialist and is taking that country down a dead end street.
@this point things here are a slow train wreck. its going to take time, as the reserve currency we can print. and the 85 billion a month is just keeping the ship afloat , w/little cost push inflation . china has 8% inflation. Shinzo abe is trying and will eventually kick start japan. yellen is on deck. patience is needed . the sad part for me, is the shredding of the constitution. really wise inciteful men drew up that document and now others have continued the shredding process which began awhile back.

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dharma:

I always read Doug Noland:

http://www.safehaven...terminal-phases (excerpts below)

The QE-enhanced 2013 version of “how crazy do things get?” is outshining even the 1999 speculative melee. The (post-LTCM bailout) year 1999 saw the small cap Russell 2000 Index jump from 422 to 505 (19.7%). This year, it has already run from 849 to 1,114 (up 31.3%). The S&P400 Midcap Index jumped from 392 to 445 in 1999 (13.5%). With more than two months to go, so far it’s 1,020 to 1,290 for the midcaps (up 26.5%).

My Macro Credit thesis holds – and there is ample fundamental support for – the view that we’re now five years into history’s greatest global Bubble. I have posited that China is deep into its “Terminal Phase” of Credit excess. With China’s 1.35 billion people and Trillions of unrestrained Credit expansion, I’ll argue China’s “Terminal Phase” is integral to the overall “Terminal Phase” of a most protracted and dangerous global Credit Bubble. In general, post-2008 global monetary inflation pushed EM to precarious “Terminal Phase” Bubble excess, leaving deep wounds of economic maladjustment and financial fragility.

The dollar was hit relatively hard this week. Newfound dollar weakness may prove an important market development – perhaps even a crucial inflection point. Many speculators were positioned bullish the dollar, expecting a safe haven bid in the midst of unfolding EM instability.

It’s been only about three weeks, but the fourth quarter has already shown itself worthy of the history books. If the leveraged speculating community can hold gains through year-end, the ranks of billionaires are sure to inflate further. No winners?


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Posted 21 October 2013 - 12:39 PM

Dougie: Timing is always the issue - the PM markets will sniff it out well ahead of time I am confident of that! stubaby B)

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Posted 21 October 2013 - 09:55 PM

one thing to keep in mind is since the 99 lows,total mine production has increased by less than 4% . while golds price has increased by better than 500% to counter that france has made it illegal to own gold. india has slapped a 10% tax and slapped limitations on imports. when the bull resumes in this tiny market , supply is not going to ramp up quickly, miners have been battered dharma

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 09:48 AM

i still believe there is a high % chance the 6/29/13 lows were the lows, all the earmarks of a bottom were there @the time. of course the market in its infinite wisdom will show us. i have a window in this time band that stretches till around november 10 th. this is the strong season for gold. however w/india effectively being reduced in its market buying, the equation changes. the rupee right now is firm . my 1st trip to india was in 80 there were 8 rupees to the dollar , today there are about 60 to the dollar . and that is the story for them throughout there history. its no accident citizens hold gold , it has preserved their wealth like forever. the falling crude price should help the import data. as well as their clamping down on gold imports. china has become the lead dog. the banksters have moved their operations to the far east, where they will feast for a period of time, money has no borders. this country continues to be gutted, where is old hickory when you need him! gold/silver have taken out some resistance. above the 1434 highs and its game on. the psychology/sentiment is ripe for it. and so many are still looking for the lows, which may be in. dharma fwiw i beleve @this point we are starting wave 3- stu your take many commodities are in basing patterns. i believe we are starting to see money flee from cash and into assets the big legs up in the broads which have more than doubled since the 08 lows are indicative of that

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 11:39 AM

got the expected next leg up to challenge muy importante 1345 resistance area, if this is a tres wave and we are headed to 1450 we power thru resistance, if we fail badly here then this could be an upside correction and she goes down hard, I like the long side but have now placed nicely profitable stops in GDX long. Senor

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 04:17 PM

very interesting to me how little enthusiasm there is on this gold rally, that could be serious fuel for a much higher move here. DSI Gold sentiment after Monday's close and the recent good rally was still an amazingly low 25% bullish level. The 5-day is at 23.4% Bulls, the 10-day at 20.2% bulls, and the 21-day at 26.8% bulls. IMO this very bearish sentiment (bullish from a contrary opinion standpoint) along with improved technicals and what I see as a likely bullish wave structure suggest 1450 or higher has a very good chance to occur Senor

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Posted 22 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

i still believe there is a high % chance the 6/29/13 lows were the lows, all the earmarks of a bottom were there @the time. of course the market in its infinite wisdom will show us. i have a window in this time band that stretches till around november 10 th.
this is the strong season for gold. however w/india effectively being reduced in its market buying, the equation changes. the rupee right now is firm . my 1st trip to india was in 80 there were 8 rupees to the dollar , today there are about 60 to the dollar . and that is the story for them throughout there history. its no accident citizens hold gold , it has preserved their wealth like forever. the falling crude price should help the import data. as well as their clamping down on gold imports. china has become the lead dog. the banksters have moved their operations to the far east, where they will feast for a period of time, money has no borders. this country continues to be gutted, where is old hickory when you need him!
gold/silver have taken out some resistance. above the 1434 highs and its game on. the psychology/sentiment is ripe for it. and so many are still looking for the lows, which may be in.
dharma
fwiw i beleve @this point we are starting wave 3- stu your take
many commodities are in basing patterns. i believe we are starting to see money flee from cash and into assets
the big legs up in the broads which have more than doubled since the 08 lows are indicative of that



dharma:

My take on $HUI for now:

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$HUI&p=W&yr=3&mn=6&dy=0&i=p50876055185&a=316642886&r=1758.png

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:01 AM

Why do you need 5 down on HUI?
Bull market over?

i still believe there is a high % chance the 6/29/13 lows were the lows, all the earmarks of a bottom were there @the time. of course the market in its infinite wisdom will show us. i have a window in this time band that stretches till around november 10 th.
this is the strong season for gold. however w/india effectively being reduced in its market buying, the equation changes. the rupee right now is firm . my 1st trip to india was in 80 there were 8 rupees to the dollar , today there are about 60 to the dollar . and that is the story for them throughout there history. its no accident citizens hold gold , it has preserved their wealth like forever. the falling crude price should help the import data. as well as their clamping down on gold imports. china has become the lead dog. the banksters have moved their operations to the far east, where they will feast for a period of time, money has no borders. this country continues to be gutted, where is old hickory when you need him!
gold/silver have taken out some resistance. above the 1434 highs and its game on. the psychology/sentiment is ripe for it. and so many are still looking for the lows, which may be in.
dharma
fwiw i beleve @this point we are starting wave 3- stu your take
many commodities are in basing patterns. i believe we are starting to see money flee from cash and into assets
the big legs up in the broads which have more than doubled since the 08 lows are indicative of that



dharma:

My take on $HUI for now:

http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$HUI&p=W&yr=3&mn=6&dy=0&i=p50876055185&a=316642886&r=1758.png

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

Why do you need 5 down on HUI?
Bull market over?



Dougie:

I think we are in a large A of larger ABC on HUI after this A is done B up will follow to new all-time highs.

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Note: I'm trading long now for this move higher

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 10:59 AM

huge draw down in gld yesterday. its holdings are down about 35% year to date. sprotts holding down aout 4% year to date. gld run by the banksters. hmmmm. speculating. maybe there is nt that much physical around and the way they get it is raid the gld??? gofo went into backwardation the other day=no physical available, so price goes up to find the physical.
after my studies last night it is crystal clear to me that we are in a huge bottoming pattern. senor and myself have pointed out the potential inverse h&s pattern on the gold /and many miners as well as the mining indexes. this pattern is not complete. the market needs to get over 1434 to complete the pattern . the significance of an inverse h&s pattern according to edwards and maghee is it is a reversal pattern= the lows are in . it was a tug of war between the bulls/bears to form the pattern w/the bulls in this case finally winning out. as i said the pattern is not complete until 1434 is taken out.
sentiment still remains ripe for an upside move, it remains for the market to make the final verdict. i am waiting to see what happens w/india buying. if the market opens up. crude going down should help stabilize the rupee, and of course the govt will take credit , bringing their trade balance back a bit
seems foreigners are not buying us debt like before http://www.bloomberg...treasuries.html
@some point the market will open its lid. right now its a big bottoming pattern ,which is yet to complete. but it does look promising
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