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[Wallcrawler]

Interesting reading... I did not know there was so much going on with this issue in regards to behind the scenes as it were.

'Scientist' Group's Funding Comes with Liberal 'Strings Attached'

snip<At a time when the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) is censuring free market organizations for accepting donations from ExxonMobil, critics have turned the spotlight back onto the UCS, its left-wing positions, and its own funding practices.>snip

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Activists Trying to Shut Down Climate Debate, Skeptics Say

snip<Climate change skeptics - and journalists who report on them - have become the target of a campaign aimed at stifling legitimate debate at a time when Congress is planning an aggressive new environmental push.>snip

Edited by Wallcrawler, 23 January 2007 - 02:20 PM.

[colours]

Follow the MONEY and find the TRUTH !! It works every time, with every issue, without exception.

[salsabob]

Just keep in mind who you're quoting -
http://www.cnsnews.c...ate/history.asp

Study after study by the Media Research Center, the parent organization of CNSNews.com, clearly demonstrate a liberal bias in many news outlets – bias by commission and bias by omission – that results in a frequent double-standard in editorial decisions on what constitutes "news."

In response to these shortcomings, MRC Chairman L. Brent Bozell III founded CNSNews.com in an effort to provide an alternative news source that would cover stories that are subject to the bias of omission and report on other news subject to bias by commission.

Not necessarily saying they're lying or wrong but, as with anything in today's information overload environment, due diligence and a little digging on your own is key.

[Rogerdodger]

I grew up fearing the return of the ice age, which the "experts" were predicting in the 50' & 60's.

Last year's prediction by the "experts" was for a record number of hurricanes to hit the US.
Actually, NONE did! Not one.
You have to take expert predictions with the same skepticism you have when you read stock guru predictions.
Now in the midst of the "heated" Global Warming debate I read this forecast:

Coldest outbreak in years.

DJ UPDATE: US GAS: More Cold Weather Forecasts Boost Market<a name="ilustracja">CALGARY (Dow Jones)--Natural gas futures rose Tuesday, with traders covering positions on forecasts of persisting cold winter in the U.S. Midwest, likely increasing demand for gas as heating fuel.Front-month February natural gas futures on the New York Mercantile Exchange settled at $7.597 a million British thermal units, up 27.8 cents.<!-- onet('adsGet1','main2-box') //--><!-- onet('adsGet2') //-->The last time the market closed higher was Dec. 14 at $7.673/MMBtu. Weather forecasts released Thursday suggested that the cold weather expected to hit the U.S. Midwest between Jan. 28 and Feb. 1 will now persist longer than previously expected. One model run by meteorologists at MDA's EarthSat Weather Group in Rockville, Md., forecasts "the coldest outbreak in years" for large parts of the U.S. between Feb. 2-6.

Meanwhile, I have had ice covering my yard for 10 days straight.
This is a record where I live.

What this proves is... nothing. Except that the weather is dynamic.
As Artic ice may be melting, Antartic ice may be thickening.
While pictures of dripping glaciers are emotive, they don’t actually present the full story. A study last year by Duncan Wingham, of the Centre for Polar Observation, using remote satellite imaging, concluded that the Antarctic ice sheet is actually thickening by about 28 gigatons a year.

If you really fear Global Warning, I hope you do not own an automobile or heat your home.
It's that simple.

In the meantime, I'm shoveling ice. http://news.google.c...an0207-snow.jpg

[Wallcrawler]

Great comments guys!!!! Appreciated!!! RD - This lake I grew up on in Canada where I used to skate does not even freeze over anymore... Miss it... Lots of memmories there... but hey the skiing is still good!!!!

[Rogerdodger]

Great comments guys!!!! Appreciated!!!

RD - This lake I grew up on in Canada where I used to skate does not even freeze over anymore... Miss it... Lots of memmories there... but hey the skiing is still good!!!!

Come on down to Tulsa. LOL!
You could ice skate on our lawn!

Speaking of Canada:
Science Daily
"An international research team including biologists Kathleen Laird and Brian Cumming from the Queen's Paleoecological Environmental Assessment and Research Laboratory (PEARL), and Peter Leavitt from the University of Regina, investigated records of drought over the past 2000 years from lake sediments in the northern Canadian prairie region (Manitoba to Alberta), as well as from sites in North Dakota and Minnesota.

"Our results from the Canadian prairies show a previously unknown and abrupt shift in climatic conditions around AD 700, while in the northern U.S. prairies, the shift occurred 500 years later, at the onset of the Little Ice Age in North America," says Dr. Laird.

Although the mechanisms behind these patterns are poorly understood, the research team believes they are likely related to persistent changes in the shape and location of the jet stream and associated storm tracks.

"Similar large-scale shifts today would prove to be a major challenge for society, regardless of global warming particularly since persistent periods of drought in the past have coincided with stress and even collapse of societies," Dr. Laird says.

The study will be published in the March issue of the Proceedings of the National Association of Sciences (PNAS). Also on the team are researchers from the University of Nebraska, and NASA's National Space Science and Technology Center in Huntsville, AL.

In a previous study led by Dr. Cumming that spanned the past 5500 years, a similar large-scale change in climate was observed in British Columbia at AD 700. Additionally, they found that similar distinct shifts in climatic conditions occurred roughly every 1200 years throughout the entire span.

"The persistence and abrupt nature of these millennial-scale events represents a scale of climate change that isn't well understood yet," says Dr. Cumming."

[Rogerdodger]

While watching "Titanic" tonight, I tought I'd do a bit of reading about the ship.
I stumbled onto this quote:
Titanic Secrets

The winter of 1912 had been unusually mild, and unprecedented amounts of ice had broken loose from the arctic regions.

Al?