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#1 OEXCHAOS

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 06:18 AM

Barely a blip sez Ben Stein (anyone? anyone?)

From How Not to Ruin Your Life

osted on Friday, March 16, 2007, 12:00AMI was going to write about how to give a good job interview, and maybe I will someday soon. But right now I'm moved by the stock market's continued gyrations downward to say a few deathless words on that subject.

In brief, be of good cheer.

A Bank or a Casino?


Let me explain a few basic things about the stock market. It exists for a variety of reasons. For one thing, it allows entrepreneurs and established companies to raise money for factories and laboratories and mills and mines.


It also allows small and large investors like you and me to purchase stocks to place long-term bets on the economy. We buy into America's industrial growth, and help it propel us into retirement and prosperity. The stock market allows this.


But the stock market is also a vast casino for the people who work in it. They play feverishly, trying to make a dollar or two (or a million or a billion) via short-term trades. They sell short, buy and sell options, use trades so complex they break computers -- all to make a quick buck.


In particular, they can make money by selling short and using "sell programs." These allow traders to make money as markets fall, just as we long-term investors make money by holding on for the long run.


Take Advantage of the Sale


These trades should be totally irrelevant to us long-term investors, except for one thing: Sometimes, when the traders and gunslingers drive down the price, they give us a chance to buy into long-term growth on the cheap.


As I've said before, if the market sells itself down a few percent or more, why not take advantage of the sale the same way you would a sale on paper towels or a washing machine? It's the same market, and eventually the traders will decide to start their manipulations to make the market go up. And there we'll be, with our stocks.


Ultimately, when the trading frenzies die down, stocks are priced according to earnings and interest rates, not according to who has the quickest finger on the sell-program trigger. And again, there we'll be with our stocks. (I learned this from Warren Buffett, so it has to be true... and it is true.)


Now, here's a key point: When the markets go nuts and traders sell short and trigger sell programs, they don't ever just say, "Hey, we're doing this to make a fast buck and profit from fear." They always have some supposedly legitimate, "statesmanlike" reason.


Barely Blip-worthy


Today, the reason is supposedly terror in the subprime mortgage market. To put this as frankly as possible, this is just nonsense.


Even if subprime delinquencies and defaults are up, they're a tiny portion of total mortgages. Suppose 13 percent of subprime mortgages are in default. Subprime itself is less than 15 percent of total mortgage debt, so that means that roughly 2 percent of mortgage debt is delinquent or in default.


Yes, that's more than it used to be, and is a disaster for the subprime mortgage companies.


But when a mortgage defaults, the lender takes back the house or condo, sells it, and usually recovers about 75 percent of the loan value or more. That means the real loss would be about 25 percent of 2 percent, or 1/2 of 1 percent.


In the context of a market as huge as the nation's mortgage market, that's not a lot. A few companies will go bankrupt, and someone will make a killing buying their bonds and portfolios at a huge discount as they turn out to be worth a lot more than people thought in March 2007. But it won't mean a lot to a roughly $14 trillion economy, of which the subprime mortgage market is a tiny blip.

More here:

http://finance.yahoo.../yourlife/26744

Note the responses to the article, too.

I'm just sayin'...

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 06:55 AM

Wow, the comments are interesting.
The harder I work, the luckier I get.

#3 arbman

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 07:08 AM

That blip might actually turned the ship though...

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 08:59 AM

Subprime loans are just the first sector that gets exposed by the adjusting payment schedules of ARMs. The weakest borrowers become exposed first. There are other nonprime sectors. PIMCO said the lax underwriting and rising payments will hit borrowers in three mortgage categories that comprise 40 percent of all mortgages.

Edited by Data, 19 March 2007 - 09:00 AM.


#5 OEXCHAOS

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 09:26 AM

I think that without some real unemployment, the effects are likely to be muted. I could be wrong, of course. My guess, however is that folks will be surprised by the strength in the real estate market this spring. That may set up a nastier decline, of course, but first things first. M

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:25 AM

Ben who? I think PIMCO is a much better authority on credit markets. Read the latest article by McCulley. He suggested that housing is doomed, whether the Fed cuts rate or not. Rate insensitive of demand for mortgage on the way up is likely to be the same on the way down. Mortgage supply is what matters and this is becoming more restrictive each day.

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 11:09 AM

Ben who? I think PIMCO is a much better authority on credit markets. Read the latest article by McCulley. He suggested that housing is doomed, whether the Fed cuts rate or not. Rate insensitive of demand for mortgage on the way up is likely to be the same on the way down. Mortgage supply is what matters and this is becoming more restrictive each day.




Ben Stein is the son of noted economist and writer Herbert Stein. He graduated from Columbia University in 1966 with honors in economics and as valedictorian of the 1970 Yale Law School class. He has worked as a poverty lawyer, a trial lawyer, a university adjunct (American University, University of California at Santa Cruz and Pepperdine University), a speech writer for Presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford and a columnist for The Wall Street Journal, The Los Angeles Herald Examiner, King Features Syndicate, Los Angeles Magazine, New York Magazine, and The American Spectator. He also writes frequently for The Washington Post. Stein has written and published 16 books (seven novels, nine nonfiction books).

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 11:29 AM

Don't forget Ferris Bueller's Day Off

and, of course

http://www.yesyoucantimethemarket.com/

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