DA BEARS ARE STILL GETTING THEMSELVES IN TROUBLE PART III
#1
Posted 24 March 2007 - 09:26 PM
#2
Posted 24 March 2007 - 10:14 PM
Inasmuch as many of the traders are very focused on the short term, what is important is what happens Monday and Tuesday, and then into month end.
Traders with a bearish tilt can make money, even if the market ends up substantially higher in the coming months.
Here is one reason why many short term traders have a bearish tilt: They are more terrified of holding a long position than they are a short position, especially over night, presumably because of the fat tails on the short side of the return distribution.
This fear is justified by market expectations. A five percent out-of-the-money call (June 150) on SPY has an implied volatility of 9.2%. Meanwhile, a five percent out-of-the-money put (June 136) on SPY has an implied volatility of 16.1%. Source http://www.theocc.com.
Trading from the short side can also offset losses incurred on core long holdings during market declines.
A preponderance of bears may reflect a tendency to use more leverage. I am guessing that the bulls use less leverage, allowing them to take sharp market declines in stride.
So I see no reason why there should be conflicts, although they may occur after sharp moves that cause losses to one side or the other. This could easily be the case now.
I hope this post is seen as constructive. I have traded for many years and have exhibited virtually every possible trader pathology, and I still get into trouble from time to time.
Edited by 89S10, 24 March 2007 - 10:17 PM.
#3
Posted 24 March 2007 - 11:03 PM
The Hankster
I will not go over the latest stats for why Da bears are in trouble other than to refer to this board. As I stated in previous postings this board tells me a lot where we are. The fear is tremendous from my viewing of the posts and the readership of the posts. The bearish posts still get the greatest reads. Look at Fractal Man's latest post of his fractal crash beginning on Monday. So far he has 920 views with 14 responses. The other bearish posts also have higher reads. The intensity of these posters also is a clue since they are so insistent on their opinion. Over the last 3 year or greater that I have followed these posts I would say the bottom is in at least for the intermediate term. I will state once more that this is no disrespect to these posters since I have a great deal of admiration for their trading experience and knowledge. At these bottoms it is rarely the same individuals that make these posts. That is; the names may change but the story is the same. Despite the criticism I have gotten for stating these opinions I think it is time to state the other side from a trader who does not view the market in terms of bear or bull. I trade both sides as I see it. Right now the trend is up. We will have some sort of retest of the bottom but my models say the retest will be rather weak. Mr market will show us the way.
Dennis
#4
Posted 25 March 2007 - 07:26 AM
Edited by klono, 25 March 2007 - 07:27 AM.
#5
Posted 25 March 2007 - 11:31 AM
I will not go over the latest stats for why Da bears are in trouble other than to refer to this board. As I stated in previous postings this board tells me a lot where we are. The fear is tremendous from my viewing of the posts and the readership of the posts. The bearish posts still get the greatest reads. Look at Fractal Man's latest post of his fractal crash beginning on Monday. So far he has 920 views with 14 responses. The other bearish posts also have higher reads. The intensity of these posters also is a clue since they are so insistent on their opinion. Over the last 3 year or greater that I have followed these posts I would say the bottom is in at least for the intermediate term. I will state once more that this is no disrespect to these posters since I have a great deal of admiration for their trading experience and knowledge. At these bottoms it is rarely the same individuals that make these posts. That is; the names may change but the story is the same. Despite the criticism I have gotten for stating these opinions I think it is time to state the other side from a trader who does not view the market in terms of bear or bull. I trade both sides as I see it. Right now the trend is up. We will have some sort of retest of the bottom but my models say the retest will be rather weak. Mr market will show us the way.
Dennis
It has over 1300 views. Wow !
#6
Posted 25 March 2007 - 05:02 PM
"In order to master the markets, you must first master yourself" ... JP Morgan
"Most people lose money because they cannot admit they are wrong"... Martin Armstrong
http://marketvisions.blogspot.com/
#7
Posted 25 March 2007 - 09:26 PM
Edited by thespookyone, 25 March 2007 - 09:29 PM.
#8
Posted 25 March 2007 - 09:44 PM
Insstead the bottom is in for the IT term, I see the top was in for the IT term.I will not go over the latest stats for why Da bears are in trouble other than to refer to this board. As I stated in previous postings this board tells me a lot where we are. The fear is tremendous from my viewing of the posts and the readership of the posts. The bearish posts still get the greatest reads. Look at Fractal Man's latest post of his fractal crash beginning on Monday. So far he has 920 views with 14 responses. The other bearish posts also have higher reads. The intensity of these posters also is a clue since they are so insistent on their opinion. Over the last 3 year or greater that I have followed these posts I would say the bottom is in at least for the intermediate term. I will state once more that this is no disrespect to these posters since I have a great deal of admiration for their trading experience and knowledge. At these bottoms it is rarely the same individuals that make these posts. That is; the names may change but the story is the same. Despite the criticism I have gotten for stating these opinions I think it is time to state the other side from a trader who does not view the market in terms of bear or bull. I trade both sides as I see it. Right now the trend is up. We will have some sort of retest of the bottom but my models say the retest will be rather weak. Mr market will show us the way.
Dennis
#9
Posted 26 March 2007 - 09:11 AM
Edited by Vector, 26 March 2007 - 09:12 AM.
#10
Posted 26 March 2007 - 10:21 AM
if one more pullback is still out there don't let it fool ya...COT right now is as long (bullish) as it was in the Fall of 2005.
anyone short is eventually going to get their doors blown off.
"In order to master the markets, you must first master yourself" ... JP Morgan
"Most people lose money because they cannot admit they are wrong"... Martin Armstrong
http://marketvisions.blogspot.com/