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#1 spielchekr

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 08:15 PM

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The white soldier #2 of the three that I suggested on Wednesday were coming is in the books. One more to go, but I think it doesn't even matter if we get it or not from this particular perspective or point in time (per the 50ma). We've already accomplished today the required price movement to capture the next price level, and the 50ma adherance to trend is now secured for 8 more days, so the 3rd soldier could be considered extraneous and expendable for the sake of keeping the market confused. Look at the projected 8 days ahead on the chart below. As long as we resume upward price movement from right here after the eighth day from now, the market can do anything it wants until then (within reason). So if I'm fortunate enough to continue being correct about this, the market has bought itself 8 trading days from today to screw with our heads before having to work on moving above to the next price level and maintain the 50ma slope status quo.

My theory behind all this is that institutions are now in need of lots of hand-holding and gentle assurances in order to be enticed to continue buying mass quantities of consumables. I've been suspecting for awhile that commercials would attempt to craft the 50ma to become absorbed into the trend centerline (right or wrong, I prefer to draw it from the lowest high of a previous downtrend if I can) for this very purpose. If so, now it's all just maintenance work from this point forward, and crafting the 50ma now means nothing more than cloning the price from 51 days ago on key days. I emphasize key days, because it would make sense to utilize consolidation periods (like the next 8 days) to make this look unscripted by shaking & baking until the actual and all-important next transcending price day (coming up 10 trading days from now, on April 27th). I think the market shall pickpocket traders while it lets the 50ma "rest" for 8 days. The working days would come again in day 9 to move up (or fight to hold onto early gains), and day 10 to thrust it again. In the meantime, any dip to today's low will get ~SO~ bot. But I wonder if that 2/27 stick isn't saying "sell in (very early) May", at least in the context of this perspective. All just in my humble delusions, of course.

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Here's the original post~

Don't trend lines seem much more meaningful when they're reinforced by a major moving average, like this?

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Here is the ideal "maintenance fractal" for keeping the 50ma up with the new, lighter-duty trend. The bulls will need to be pulling off the kind of price movement (more or less) shown in the upper right rectangle. Otherwise, the 50ma may seek out another trend line, doncha know?

It's nothing more than the 12-day fractal that preceded the 50-day period outlined in the large rectangle, plus 274 points (the difference between today's close and the close from 50 days ago...1/29/07).

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Bulls, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to generate Three White Soldiers before opex, preferably beginning tomorrow, because a post-opex dump-n-pump rally is also scheduled. This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds ...4...3...2...1...



#2 VolPivots

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 09:03 PM

Nice work....I think I see the light now--won't know until shortly after opex though, which coincidentally is the next Q1 moon :D Best, MN

#3 da_cheif

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 09:43 PM

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(Scroll down below the 1st chart for a copy of the original post on this observation)

The white soldier #2 of the three that I suggested on Wednesday were coming is in the books. One more to go, but I think it doesn't even matter if we get it or not from this particular perspective or point in time (per the 50ma). We've already accomplished today the required price movement to capture the next price level, and the 50ma adherance to trend is now secured for 8 more days, so the 3rd soldier could be considered extraneous and expendable for the sake of keeping the market confused. Look at the projected 8 days ahead on the chart below. As long as we resume upward price movement from right here after the eighth day from now, the market can do anything it wants until then (within reason). So if I'm fortunate enough to continue being correct about this, the market has bought itself 8 trading days from today to screw with our heads before having to work on moving above to the next price level and maintain the 50ma slope status quo.

My theory behind all this is that institutions are now in need of lots of hand-holding and gentle assurances in order to be enticed to continue buying mass quantities of consumables. I've been suspecting for awhile that commercials would attempt to craft the 50ma to become absorbed into the trend centerline (right or wrong, I prefer to draw it from the lowest high of a previous downtrend if I can) for this very purpose. If so, now it's all just maintenance work from this point forward, and crafting the 50ma now means nothing more than cloning the price from 51 days ago on key days. I emphasize key days, because it would make sense to utilize consolidation periods (like the next 8 days) to make this look unscripted by shaking & baking until the actual and all-important next transcending price day (coming up 10 trading days from now, on April 27th). I think the market shall pickpocket traders while it lets the 50ma "rest" for 8 days. The working days would come again in day 9 to move up (or fight to hold onto early gains), and day 10 to thrust it again. In the meantime, any dip to today's low will get ~SO~ bot. But I wonder if that 2/27 stick isn't saying "sell in (very early) May", at least in the context of this perspective. All just in my humble delusions, of course.

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Here's the original post~

Don't trend lines seem much more meaningful when they're reinforced by a major moving average, like this?

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Here is the ideal "maintenance fractal" for keeping the 50ma up with the new, lighter-duty trend. The bulls will need to be pulling off the kind of price movement (more or less) shown in the upper right rectangle. Otherwise, the 50ma may seek out another trend line, doncha know?

It's nothing more than the 12-day fractal that preceded the 50-day period outlined in the large rectangle, plus 274 points (the difference between today's close and the close from 50 days ago...1/29/07).

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Bulls, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to generate Three White Soldiers before opex, preferably beginning tomorrow, because a post-opex dump-n-pump rally is also scheduled. This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds ...4...3...2...1...



as hard as i look.....i cant find the "call"........

#4 spielchekr

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 10:44 PM

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Hint: always look for the pimple at the BOTTOM of the elephant :lol:

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#5 Mr Dev

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:54 PM

My theory behind all this is that institutions are now in need of lots of hand-holding and gentle assurances in order to be enticed to continue buying mass quantities of consumables. I've been suspecting for awhile that commercials would attempt to craft the 50ma to become absorbed into the trend centerline (right or wrong, I prefer to draw it from the lowest high of a previous downtrend if I can) for this very purpose. If so, now it's all just maintenance work from this point forward, and crafting the 50ma now means nothing more than cloning the price from 51 days ago on key days. I emphasize key days, because it would make sense to utilize consolidation periods (like the next 8 days) to make this look unscripted by shaking & baking until the actual and all-important next transcending price day (coming up 10 trading days from now, on April 27th). I think the market shall pickpocket traders while it lets the 50ma "rest" for 8 days. The working days would come again in day 9 to move up (or fight to hold onto early gains), and day 10 to thrust it again. In the meantime, any dip to today's low will get ~SO~ bot. But I wonder if that 2/27 stick isn't saying "sell in (very early) May", at least in the context of this perspective. All just in my humble delusions, of course.



Hmm, keep this up .........as I'll be reading your next topic. ;)

Edited by Mr Dev, 13 April 2007 - 11:54 PM.


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#6 J.Bilkins

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 07:05 AM

That fractal on the NYA moving average is an extremely interesting find. So is the white soldiers. I just don't see how much matters though with the amazing amount of info coming out next week with earnings and events etc. I assume it should not matter of course. Statistically his is probably true but it also seems to say everything is already known and played for next week as well? Any odds with fractals playing out during times like next week. The amount of earnings is amazing.

#7 spielchekr

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 10:24 AM

That fractal on the NYA moving average is an extremely interesting find. So is the white soldiers.
I just don't see how much matters though with the amazing amount of info coming out next week with earnings and events etc.
I assume it should not matter of course. Statistically his is probably true but it also seems to say everything is already known and played for next week as well?
Any odds with fractals playing out during times like next week. The amount of earnings is amazing.



http://w3.tribcsp.com/~fredj/ney.html

This link, so kindly provided by Da_Cheif, is a lifetime's worth of market knowledge condensed into about 15 minutes worth of thoughtful reading. An excerpt from it:

"Investors assume that what happens in the economy or to the corporation in terms of earnings or sales determines the trend of stock prices. ... The most misleading element in this type of analysis is that it ignores the basic needs and motivations of the specialist system" (2Ney, 150).

The rest of this article explains why in vivid detail.

It's taking awhile, but I think I'm slowly coming around to a more meaningul appreciation for Da_Cheif's understanding of the criminal mind. But please don't let him know. :)

Bottom line I take from it... earnings are closer to the machinations than they are the essence of price. Price surely doesn't ever have to tack the path I present. But it surely is controlled. Knowing that is half of the battle.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 08:56 AM

Piranha can devour a cow (or bear) in 4 minutes.

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 09:07 PM

Just documenting the actual three white soldiers...

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The market deadheads price right back to the same resistance line that was being approached 51 days ago. Resistance has some more reinforcement (red line) this time around. Mission Impossible accomplished. The new high is sufficient to keep the game going for Team Wall Street, and it's surely close to maintenance shutdown time for the money presses, so I doubt we get the perfect purple tag for 3 drives to a top.

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