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#1 SemiBizz

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 03:55 PM

TOO BIG TO FAIL......

You know it's not until a few things happen like Katrina or 911 before we realize just what happens when infrastructure fails. Are you surprised to learn that there are hundreds of other bridges in the US that have ALREADY been identified as structurally deficient? Well, you tell me the difference between that set of warning signals and the ones we see present today in our economic foundations... You can add to the list but probably the #1 most worrisome is:
Net Negative Savings Rate.
But I can think of a plethora of others, from the deficits to loss of our "productive" base. Most everything we do here now is some kind of a "service". Nearly all of our transactions are backed up by transfer payments and not with any kind of a "US Economy" capital producing and accumulation theme to it. In fact it is purely consumption based.. No wonder we are so willing to accept a fiat economy, since basically most of what we do here now with notable exceptions ends up consumed and vaporizes, rather than being productively replenished? , if a society produces nothing why should it expect value in return?


We drive over those bridges every day, and we hand them our credit card at the gas station without giving it a thought. Just think about what those people on the bridge thought... it was the last thing they ever thought could happen...

Edited by SemiBizz, 05 August 2007 - 04:05 PM.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:14 PM

It took the Roman Empire several centuries to "decline" but they didn't have the internet. :(

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:15 PM

Whats up with all this gloom ? btw, 40 bil dollars in Treasury paydowns is coming to the market next week. Of course this country is on decline... but it won't happen overnight. And there will still be rallies in the stock market. Especcialy when doom and gloom is prevailing like it does this weekend. You think I'm not scared ? I'm super scared, for my own future, the future of my kids, the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket, dragged down by mountains of debt that can never be paid off. But..... There will be rallies.

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#4 SemiBizz

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:19 PM

Whats up with all this gloom ?





Go take a long drive there won't be much traffic.
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:25 PM

Whats up with all this gloom ?





Go take a long drive there won't be much traffic.



I just did.. its hot here. Hot and humid. I really didn't want to go. I'd rather be sitting home with the A/C on. But I had to.

Yes, of course the economy will slowdown. But this isn't going to happen overnight.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:30 PM

Yes, of course the economy will slowdown. But this isn't going to happen overnight.




Of course not, they will close the markets given certain parameters... we had curbs kick in on Friday that saved it...
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:37 PM

There is no problem with the foundation, it is only this non-stop manipulation of the money supply that is causing the distortions. There is probably nothing more inconsistent in the financial history than the interest rate changes that benefits only the ultra asset rich...

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 04:47 PM

Whats up with all this gloom ?





Go take a long drive there won't be much traffic.



i can't afford the gas...maybe i'll ride my bike :lol: .

ed rader

You think I'm not scared ? I'm super scared, for my own future, the future of my kids, the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket, dragged down by mountains of debt that can never be paid off. But..... There will be rallies.


i feel better as long as there are rallies :lol: :lol: :lol: !

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 05:39 PM

<< There will be rallies.>> Absolutely! Even after October 1929, the following months had several rallies :D
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Posted 05 August 2007 - 07:30 PM

Whats up with all this gloom ?

btw, 40 bil dollars in Treasury paydowns is coming to the market next week.

Of course this country is on decline... but it won't happen overnight. And there will still be rallies in the stock market.

Especcialy when doom and gloom is prevailing like it does this weekend.
You think I'm not scared ? I'm super scared, for my own future, the future of my kids, the whole world is going to hell in a handbasket, dragged down by mountains of debt that can never be paid off. But..... There will be rallies.


Hell in a handbasket ? I believe several generations before us thought this way too. The folks in the depression era, Holocost era, Vietnam era, John Kennedy era, and so on. Granted, America wasn't as mature and developed as we are today, but that doesn't make it such that we are necessarily on a decline, does it ?

You have to live it each day, just like the folks on the Mnpls bridge did. You never know, when this day may be your "last." And life must go on. Now if someone fires off some major nuclear missles, (and they hit part of our country, or another) then I think hell in a handbasket would be an appropriate assessment. Who knows what would follow that ?
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