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#1 NAV

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 06:57 AM

As long as the weekly CCI remains below -100, the bottom ain't confirmed and the market will remain on tenterhooks. Ooops, the futures are down 16 points from yesterday's close. Did someone fatfinger that late day trade again ? Yesterday close, the bears were wondering WTF it was. Today morning it's the bulls turn. It's called volatility folks!. Seems like those pesky shorts will make some money again :P

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#2 rkd80

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:22 AM

As long as the weekly CCI remains below -100, the bottom ain't confirmed and the market will remain on tenterhooks.

Ooops, the futures are down 16 points from yesterday's close. Did someone fatfinger that late day trade again ? Yesterday close, the bears were wondering WTF it was. Today morning it's the bulls turn. It's called volatility folks!. Seems like those pesky shorts will make some money again :P


we cant just go straight uip from here. this would imply a V-bottom formation and those almost never happen. this decline is good, will be a great buying opportunity provided the retest is successful.

i am more curious in how to play today's short side. Futures down 1% is a little paralyzing, as it already looks OS on the 60 min charts....
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:48 AM

As long as the weekly CCI remains below -100, the bottom ain't confirmed and the market will remain on tenterhooks.

Ooops, the futures are down 16 points from yesterday's close. Did someone fatfinger that late day trade again ? Yesterday close, the bears were wondering WTF it was. Today morning it's the bulls turn. It's called volatility folks!. Seems like those pesky shorts will make some money again :P


we cant just go straight uip from here. this would imply a V-bottom formation and those almost never happen. this decline is good, will be a great buying opportunity provided the retest is successful.

i am more curious in how to play today's short side. Futures down 1% is a little paralyzing, as it already looks OS on the 60 min charts....


Looks already oversold ? - Nah, it's overbought...There's plenty of roooom.

How to play this ? - Remember partial profits = no anxiety. Closed half my OEX puts yesterday. Holding the rest 50%. Don't need to worry about how to get back in.

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Edited by NAV, 09 August 2007 - 07:54 AM.

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#4 greenie

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:56 AM

NAV, what's your rule for partial profit? I have been trying something similar lately (in much larger timeframe) and it has been very helpful.
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Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:10 AM

The SPX had a retracement rally on 6/2/06 that approaced a declining daily 21 ma very similar to yesterday's SPX. Will the market go to new lows as in 1986?

The SPX had a retracement rally on 6/2/06 that approaced a declining daily 21 ma very similar to yesterday's SPX. Will the market go to new lows as in 1986?


Sorry, should be as in 2006

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:11 AM

NAV, what's your rule for partial profit? I have been trying something similar lately (in much larger timeframe) and it has been very helpful.


Sell 50% after a risk/reward of 2.5:1 has been met. If i use a stop of 4 points on ES, i would take partial profits at 2.5 * 4 = 10 points. I take profits on the rest half, if either a risk/reward of 5:1 objective is met or the signal changes or sometimes based on experience/gut feel.

Again, this is w.r.t to ES. One has to tune the risk/reward objectives, based on the volatility characteristics of the instrument.

Edited by NAV, 09 August 2007 - 08:14 AM.

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#7 greenie

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:14 AM

Sell 50% after a risk/reward of 2.5:1 has been met. If i use a stop of 4 points on ES, i would take partial profits at 2.5 * 4 = 10 points. I take profits on the rest half, if either a risk/reward of 5:1 objective is met or the signal changes or sometimes based on experience/gut feel.


Thanks !
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